Crazy Electricity Bills £1K+

keithhubner

markin said:

The heatpump needs to be looked at every year, it needs the fins cleaning.


Is the 11,847 the Total since you moved in? it would mean only around 2600kwh a year, At 4.5 years. The Month you moved in would be useful, And when did you get the car?

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Octopus will lend you a thermal camera!  What is the EPC/sap rating?

Also all heatpumps seem to display the cop and energy in/out you just have to find the correct menu screen.

How do you get the thermal camera? Just email them?

keithhubner

pochase said:

You are mentioning that the January bill looks the same, are you looking at the £795 before EPG or are you looking at the £400 you will have to pay after the EPG of £395 is been deducted.

Is the £1200 for December maybe also before the EPG is deducted and the amount they ask you to pay much lower?

Yeah the Octopus web tool was very misleading, turns out in Jan we used 2355kWh = £808

markin

keithhubner said:

markin said:

The heatpump needs to be looked at every year, it needs the fins cleaning.


Is the 11,847 the Total since you moved in? it would mean only around 2600kwh a year, At 4.5 years. The Month you moved in would be useful, And when did you get the car?

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Octopus will lend you a thermal camera!  What is the EPC/sap rating?

Also all heatpumps seem to display the cop and energy in/out you just have to find the correct menu screen.

How do you get the thermal camera? Just email them?

You have to join a waiting list.

https://octopus.energy/thermal-camera-terms-conditions/
https://octopus.energy/blog/flir-thermal-cameras/

Robin9

keithhubne

How do you get the thermal camera? Just email them?

Local council / library

matelodave

Perhaps you need to do an energy audit.

Try reading the meter just before you go to bed and again in the morning when you get up but before switching anything on (including the kettle for that first cuppa). Do it for several nights to get a feel for your baseline consumption when most stuff is off (or should be)

You can then try and determine how much stuff consumes. You need to take actual meter readings a bit more often than one or twice a month if you want to find out what is using it and when. Just getting a ginormous bill and going into a panic wont help you identify what is using it all. If you've got a smart meter then getting an app like Bright will give you half hourly readings or possibly so will your In Home Device.

This site allows me to download up to 90 days worth of half hour data from my meter - https://data.n3rgy.com/consumer/home which you can put into a spread sheet - probably more than you need but the data is avaiable for you to analyse.

I can remotely read my meter using the IHD and it will display the meter log directly so I can get 30 minute, daily, weekly and monthly consumption figures as well as giving me real time info of what I'm using. You've got the tools to monitor what is going so try using them.

Set up a spreadsheet, read the meter at least twice a day - morning and evening and record what you've used and when.

You could also do as I asked above and give us more info on what you've got - a "by they way, we've got a PHEV" will obviously make a big difference compared with most other people, similarly having a conservatory and a house that's twice the size of an average house will also increase your consumption by quite a bit.

macman

How does a a bill for £406.92 for 16 days equate to 'nearly £1,200' for the month? If you pro-rata to 31 days, it's £788. I think you forgot to deduct the EPG credit of £395.46...

ariarnia

keithhubner said:

Robin9 said:

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We built our house about 5 years ago, it's 3 story 5 bed house, around 2.5K sq foot. The ground floor is all underfloor heating, the upstairs rooms are rads and the bathrooms have electric ufh.

    

and you are surprised to have a high energy consumption

Should I not be? 

nov to jan are normally the most expensive heating months so it might help if you have your 12 month readings from any of the last 5 years (any two readings 12 months apart)? could be that you have very high bills for a couple of months over the winter but over the year it averages out to not be as bad as you think. 

or there might be a problem that we can find if your use this year is suddenly a lot higher than last year or your meters are recording high use at times when you know/think things are off. 

but i think the point robin was making was you have a larger than average house so its not all that surprising if your bills work out higher than average. the question is how much higher is reasonable given your lifestyle and house. 

i think the 'average' house size in the uk is around 800sq ft. and the 'average' bill under the cap is supposed to be £3k. so a bill for you of around £9k a year wouldnt be that surprising given your house is about 3 times average. 

and thats ignoring the fact your heating with electric which normally means higher bills than gas (even with the cop depending on the house and how its set up). but also ignoring your house being fairly new and maybe well insulated? and your lifestyle which is the biggest impact on bills. 

jbuchanangb

For the 17 days for which you gave use the readings you were using 73kWh per day. On the coldest days in the year, using and Air Source Heat pump and electrically powered underfloor heating. Recipe for high bills!

EssexHebridean

I’ve been hovering around 25 to 30kWh per day since the beginning of the cold snap in December - it’s just beginning to drop back a little now after a prolonged period of warmer temperatures. Of course that is using NSHs rather than the (presumably) more efficient ASHP the OP has - but is also for a property a fraction of the size. I wouldn’t have thought that the sort of use the OP is reporting is particularly outlandish though - I’d guess they may well also have rather a lot more consuming power generally than I have too!