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Installing A Ring Pro 2 Doorbell (wired)

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Hi, just bought a Ring Pro 2, can I just wire it to the existing doorbell wires?

It did come with a Ring https://en-uk.ring.com/collections/accessories/products/video-doorbell-plug-in-adapter-gen-2 adapter which apparently plugs into the mains, but just wondered if I can use the existing wires?

Thanks!
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  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 18,613 Forumite
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    edited 1 February 2023 at 4:39PM
    Depends on the transformer of your old setup and the power needs of your bell
  • grumbler
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    Is it just a camera with a button or a chime as well?

    First, your existing doorbell is, most likely, AC, not DC.
    Second, the 'existing wires' are for a button (= switch), not for a doorbell. The doorbell is inside the house.

    Yes, you can possibly use the existing wires but only after serious changes to the doorbell circuit that include powering it from a 24V DC power supply. For this you need good understanding of what you are doing, but, as you are asking this question, I think it's not the case.
  • ukbill69
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    I wouldn't trust old wires, run new wires and use some of this to hide cable https://www.toolstation.com/mini-trunking-3m/p55828
    Kind Regards
    Bill
  • ML420cdi
    ML420cdi Posts: 67 Forumite
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    Hmmm yes its a new build doorbell, the Ring Pro 2 needs I have just read

    Hardwire with DIN Rail Transformer 2nd Gen (24V DC, 0.42A, 10W), or existing doorbell system (16-24V AC, 10-40 VA, 50/60Hz).

    Existing doorbell looks like



    Would have thought the existing doorbell will have had its voltage reduced in order to do a simple ring?...I thought it would be a case of using the existing wire for the doorbell but it seems there is a lot more to it now.
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  • grumbler
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    edited 1 February 2023 at 6:48PM
    You can
    1. Isolate the doorbell from mains with the main switch in the CU
    2. disconnect the existing chime from mains
    3. terminate mains wires
    4. switch the mains in the CU back
    5. remove the chime on the wall and the push button on the door
    6. use the existing wires (e.g. white+blue twisted and white+brown twisted judging by your photo) going from the chime to the button for powering your new 'doorbell' from a 24V DC power supply (polarity +/- is essential!).
    Your new doorbell has to work then, but I'm not sure how it rings without the optional chime


    As simple as that.


    Not really....


  • ML420cdi
    ML420cdi Posts: 67 Forumite
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    Thanks Grumbler...

    Actually just bought

    https://en-uk.ring.com/collections/accessories/products/din-rail-transformer-gen-2

    and 

    https://en-uk.ring.com/collections/accessories/products/enclosure-din-rail-transformer

    Hopefully that will work with existing wiring...will get an electrician in and that should sort it.
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  • grumbler
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    Yes, this will work.
  • Cornucopia
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    The "wired" variants of Ring doorbells are intended to be installed in place of an existing bell button, using the existing wiring and the original transformer.   However, in order to do that requires some basic electrical knowledge, and having done it, I don't think it's necessarily a job for a complete DIY electrics novice.

    It chimes using other devices (if there isn't an optional chime installed).  e.g. Echoes, Phone(s) and Fire Sticks. 
  • Thanks, am guessing the need for a different transformer is due to the current one not providing enough power for the new unit?

    The Ring Pro 2 needs:
    or existing doorbell system (16-24V AC, 10-40 VA, 50/60Hz).

    So am guessing the current unit does not provide that?
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  • grumbler
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    The "wired" variants of Ring doorbells are intended to be installed in place of an existing bell button, using the existing wiring and the original transformer. 
    Well, my 'original' transformer is 12V (8V+4V) and AC, not 24V DC. And the OP's 'wired' Ring doorbell came with a plug-in adapter for a reason.
    Your "using the existing wiring and the original transformer" is an overestimation.


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