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Which Solicitor?

Galloglass
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edited 1 February 2023 at 9:18AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Trying to work out which firm of Solicitors are generating the most Default CCJs / Set Asides so need to update a list I have. Each claim number is 8 digits long. The first character is the year of the claim (C is 2016) and the 3/4th characters are the solicitors - HW for SCS Law. ParkingEye who have in-house solicitors use FC and Civil Enforcement GM.

If you have others, could you update this thread with the answer. Looking for AT, DP, GF, HM, KF and QZ. GF is Gladstones but want to check.





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  • Galloglass
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    To quote a certain Mr Raab

    It is inevitable that, sometimes, people are unaware that they are subject to a County Court judgment, but there is concern that in some cases this may be happening because creditors deliberately use addresses for debtors that they know to be old. This deprives debtors the chance to defend the claim and having to suffer the consequences of possible enforcement as creditors use this as leverage for future debt recovery.

    https://consult.justice.gov.uk/digital-communications/default-county-court-judgments-2/supporting_documents/defaultcountycourtjudgmentsconsultation.pdf
    • All land is owned. If you are not on yours, you are on someone else's
    • When on someone else's be it a road, a pavement, a right of way or a property there are rules. Don't assume there are none.
    • "Free parking" doesn't mean free of rules. Check the rules and if you don't like them, go elsewhere
    • All land is owned. If you are not on yours, you are on someone else's and their rules apply.
    Just visiting - back in 2025
  • Grizebeck
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    Trying to work out which firm of Solicitors are generating the most Default CCJs / Set Asides so need to update a list I have. Each claim number is 8 digits long. The first character is the year of the claim (C is 2016) and the 3/4th characters are the solicitors - HW for SCS Law. ParkingEye who have in-house solicitors use FC and Civil Enforcement GM.

    If you have others, could you update this thread with the answer. Looking for AT, DP, GF, HM, KF and QZ. GF is Gladstones but want to check.





    Do you mean the most Default CCJs as a percentage of the number of claims issued or just as a total number
  • Coupon-mad
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    I have these:

    Parking Eye = FCCivil Enforcement = GM

    Gladstones = GF

    BW Legal = DP

    DCB Legal = KF

    SCS Law = HW

    QDR = HM

    The 3rd and 4th letters of the claim number identify the legal firm, or in-house legal team.

    I've previously tried and was refused by the MoJ, a FOI to find out claim and default CCJ numbers by those claim codes.

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  • ParkingMad
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    edited 10 February 2023 at 1:15PM
    Also
    Excel / VCS = QZ

    The MOJ publishes quarterly statistics on the number of claims issued and the number of default judgments. 

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/civil-justice-statistics-quarterly-july-to-september-2022

    It says approximately 90% of claims result in a default judgment. 
  • Galloglass
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    Is QZ them using their in-house team?

    Approximately 90% of claims result in a default judgment. 
    There is information from the Roboclaimers' trade association that it's 85% for MoneyClaim (misc contracts) and 95%-98% for financial issues where there would be a signed agreement. They basically argue that its not their fault as they are really nice people and wished people would talk them more.

    Something to read as this is likely to come up during the proposed consultation

    https://www.ccua.org.uk/uploads/consultations/109/PAP-Article-Jan-2022.pdf

    • All land is owned. If you are not on yours, you are on someone else's
    • When on someone else's be it a road, a pavement, a right of way or a property there are rules. Don't assume there are none.
    • "Free parking" doesn't mean free of rules. Check the rules and if you don't like them, go elsewhere
    • All land is owned. If you are not on yours, you are on someone else's and their rules apply.
    Just visiting - back in 2025
  • ParkingMad
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    edited 10 February 2023 at 8:28PM
     Galloglass said:
    Is QZ them using their in-house team?
    Yes I believe so.

    The MOJ figure of approximately 90% default judgments was for all small claims, not just for parking claims. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    Is QZ them using their in-house team?

    Approximately 90% of claims result in a default judgment. 
    There is information from the Roboclaimers' trade association that it's 85% for MoneyClaim (misc contracts) and 95%-98% for financial issues where there would be a signed agreement. They basically argue that its not their fault as they are really nice people and wished people would talk them more.

    Something to read as this is likely to come up during the proposed consultation

    https://www.ccua.org.uk/uploads/consultations/109/PAP-Article-Jan-2022.pdf

    Wow, with those anti consumer views, one might be forgiven for thinking that author has an apt first name...
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  • Umkomaas
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    Is QZ them using their in-house team?

    Approximately 90% of claims result in a default judgment. 
    There is information from the Roboclaimers' trade association that it's 85% for MoneyClaim (misc contracts) and 95%-98% for financial issues where there would be a signed agreement. They basically argue that its not their fault as they are really nice people and wished people would talk them more.

    Something to read as this is likely to come up during the proposed consultation

    https://www.ccua.org.uk/uploads/consultations/109/PAP-Article-Jan-2022.pdf

    The creditor is almost always doing everything possible to engage. Why? They want to be paid. They are communicating with a view to achieving that. The difficult part is encouraging the debtor to respond. They often don’t for a variety of reasons, inability to pay, embarrassment, fear, whatever. If and when they do engage, they are usually pleasantly surprised. They find that most creditors are realists. They don’t want to demand unrealistic repayments which will never be maintained, any more than they want to waste their time and money on pointless and inappropriate legal action which will achieve nothing.
    None of that fits any profile of any private parking firm!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Galloglass
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    For what it's worth, numbers from Courtserve for the last 30 days say

    All Claims / of which Set Asides / %
    Gladstones / 362 / 98 / 27%
    DCB Legal / 290 / 107 / 37%
    BW Legal / 179 / 29 / 16%
    (QZ*) / 139 /  31 / 22%
    Civil Enforcement / 86 / 31 / 36 %  

    *VCS and others. Also come through DCBL

    Average SA rate for same period is 29%

    • All land is owned. If you are not on yours, you are on someone else's
    • When on someone else's be it a road, a pavement, a right of way or a property there are rules. Don't assume there are none.
    • "Free parking" doesn't mean free of rules. Check the rules and if you don't like them, go elsewhere
    • All land is owned. If you are not on yours, you are on someone else's and their rules apply.
    Just visiting - back in 2025
  • Umkomaas
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    Almost 300 set asides in just one month, and I'd guess that most are private parking related. Just how many more are hiding in the shadows?  Shocking!

    Thank you for this interesting data @Galloglass.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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