Cannot change Vehicle Tax class after first Registration

bigpappa

My wife purchased a car but it was registered under the wrong tax category - not based on its low emissions. So we wrote in to the DVLA who said that as an IVA was not presented at the time of first registration and the CO2 figure was not given on the certificate it cannot now be retrospectively included at a later date even if an IVA were to be presented retrospectively. 

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001

So the car tax should be £30 but it will be taxed at £165 PLG Tax class. Now is this the law or is this their policy? If it's the Law can someone point out where this is and if it's policy I assume if I changed the car engine size they would want me to legally inform them - seems to be a one way policy?

born_again

So what year is the car from?
As it seems odd that other owners will have been paying So much more each month.

Cars first registered on or after March 2001 but before 1 April 2017

Would be the only ones to fall in the £30 band for 111-120 g/km

bigpappa

born_again said:

So what year is the car from?
As it seems odd that other owners will have been paying So much more each month.

Cars first registered on or after March 2001 but before 1 April 2017

Would be the only ones to fall in the £30 band for 111-120 g/km

February 2016

Mildly_Miffed

It should be CO2 taxed, then.

What's the CO2 figure on the V5C? £165 is band E, 131-140g.
£30 would be C, 111-120g.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001

Optional extras (anything that adds rolling resistance like bigger wheels, anything that affects aerodynamics like roof rails, anything that adds weight like a panoramic roof) can make a difference to the figure for an individual vehicle compared to a generic number given for that model. The figure on the V5C is the exact figure for your individual car, according to the manufacturer.

If it was a non-EU import without a certificate of compliance and an official CO2 figure, it'd be on the pre-2001 bands - £180 under 1550cc, £295 above - so we can rule that possibility out.

born_again

bigpappa said:

born_again said:

So what year is the car from?
As it seems odd that other owners will have been paying So much more each month.

Cars first registered on or after March 2001 but before 1 April 2017

Would be the only ones to fall in the £30 band for 111-120 g/km

February 2016

Should have added this,, but hoped....

Which car/engine/gearbox etc.

Wonka_2

Mildly_Miffed said:

It should be CO2 taxed, then.

What's the CO2 figure on the V5C? £165 is band E, 131-140g.
£30 would be C, 111-120g.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001

Optional extras (anything that adds rolling resistance like bigger wheels, anything that affects aerodynamics like roof rails, anything that adds weight like a panoramic roof) can make a difference to the figure for an individual vehicle compared to a generic number given for that model. The figure on the V5C is the exact figure for your individual car, according to the manufacturer.

If it was a non-EU import without a certificate of compliance and an official CO2 figure, it'd be on the pre-2001 bands - £180 under 1550cc, £295 above - so we can rule that possibility out.

So not insurmountable that someone's over-specced a 120g model with bigger wheels/bodykit/climate etc which has driven it above 131g.

Without more details we'll never know but not sure you can revert back to standard wheels etc to reduce the CO2 banding

bigpappa

Wonka_2 said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

It should be CO2 taxed, then.

What's the CO2 figure on the V5C? £165 is band E, 131-140g.
£30 would be C, 111-120g.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001

Optional extras (anything that adds rolling resistance like bigger wheels, anything that affects aerodynamics like roof rails, anything that adds weight like a panoramic roof) can make a difference to the figure for an individual vehicle compared to a generic number given for that model. The figure on the V5C is the exact figure for your individual car, according to the manufacturer.

If it was a non-EU import without a certificate of compliance and an official CO2 figure, it'd be on the pre-2001 bands - £180 under 1550cc, £295 above - so we can rule that possibility out.

So not insurmountable that someone's over-specced a 120g model with bigger wheels/bodykit/climate etc which has driven it above 131g.

Without more details we'll never know but not sure you can revert back to standard wheels etc to reduce the CO2 banding

It's standard wheels. 

https://www.car-emissions.com/cars/view/59190

That's the exact model, it's an import I from Japan. Bought it from a dealer and some of the paperwork was in Japanese.

facade

If it is a JDM car then it won't automatically be classed the same as the Euro version, it will meet JDM standards (which are equivalent but not the same)

If you look at the VIN plate it wont have Euro markings for emissions (my car has e6* and some numbers)

So as DVLA say, it required an official statement on emissions from the manufacturer (a model report) on its emissions when it was registered with a normal IVA.

The importer would have had to pay VW for a model report, if there wasn't one ready to print off it would have cost an arm and a leg to get them to generate one, likely cheaper to pay the £135 a year for the time you own it, but it is moot now as DVLA say you can't have a second go at registering it.

I think you can get an independent test facility to produce the report by actually carrying out the tests, but I suspect a new car is cheaper.

Mildly_Miffed

bigpappa said:

Wonka_2 said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

It should be CO2 taxed, then.

What's the CO2 figure on the V5C? £165 is band E, 131-140g.
£30 would be C, 111-120g.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001

Optional extras (anything that adds rolling resistance like bigger wheels, anything that affects aerodynamics like roof rails, anything that adds weight like a panoramic roof) can make a difference to the figure for an individual vehicle compared to a generic number given for that model. The figure on the V5C is the exact figure for your individual car, according to the manufacturer.

If it was a non-EU import without a certificate of compliance and an official CO2 figure, it'd be on the pre-2001 bands - £180 under 1550cc, £295 above - so we can rule that possibility out.

So not insurmountable that someone's over-specced a 120g model with bigger wheels/bodykit/climate etc which has driven it above 131g.

Without more details we'll never know but not sure you can revert back to standard wheels etc to reduce the CO2 banding

It's standard wheels. 

https://www.car-emissions.com/cars/view/59190

That's the exact model, it's an import I from Japan. Bought it from a dealer and some of the paperwork was in Japanese.

Ah! Non-European import... That's the relevant bit! Then it'll be £180, not £165.

It won't be to European spec, so VW won't issue a Certificate of Conformity for your VIN, so it won't have an official CO2 figure on the V5C. It'll have needed an IVA or SVA test to be UK registered, and that doesn't calculate the exact CO2 for it.

Herzlos

Why did you import a pretty standard German hatchback from Japan? Am I missing something?

Wonka_2

Herzlos said:

Why did you import a pretty standard German hatchback from Japan? Am I missing something?

OP maybe didn't - but why anyone would is a valid question (as is why would anyone buy one ?)