Not displaying blue badge in shopping centre

Coupon-mad

MikeJXE said:

Half_way said:

Have you informed then that you have a protected characteristic (disability) as per the equality act?
And they must cancel
If not, then do so now.
The terms "protected characteristic", "must" and "equality act" are important.

Are you saying someone with a blue badge has the right to not display it and refuse any fine ? 

What fine?

Private parking charges are scams.  Not fines.

A person with protected characteristics has a legal right to a retrospective 'reasonable adjustment' (cancelled PCN) if they are disabled and forget to display their Badge or it slips down, yes.

The Government agree with me because they put it in the Appeals Charter within the new incoming Private Parking Code of Practice.  Lucky I know a little about disability law from a couple of previous jobs and even luckier that I'm the only individual consumer representative on the DLUHC Steering Group, and collaborated with others to help shape and steer the new statutory Code, eh?

Lots of good stuff is coming in within the new regime.

You should never in a million years have paid yours (whether it was from a scammer or the Council) and it is certainly wrong to misadvise other people on here to pay private PCNs whilst the rotten industry remains unregulated.

thepeachyone

fisherjim said:

Although it's no relevant displaying can be considered a courtesy to the PPC to save them the bother of going through the motions they do to clarify but of course they just want money so don't play fair.

You certainly don't contact Debt Recovery Plus who are just a waste of space.

It seems that the owner of the car park is UKCPS Ltd.  I didnt realise that.  So I need to write to them ? And quote equality act?

Fruitcake

It is very rare for a PPC to own a car park. I suggest you dig deeper.

Where did the alleged event happen? It may have cropped up here before.

Ignore debt collectors. Do not 'phone anyone.

Look up the relevant parts of the EA 2010, and get photos of the site and signage (without getting another PCN of course).

fisherjim

thepeachyone said:

fisherjim said:

Although it's no relevant displaying can be considered a courtesy to the PPC to save them the bother of going through the motions they do to clarify but of course they just want money so don't play fair.

You certainly don't contact Debt Recovery Plus who are just a waste of space.

It seems that the owner of the car park is UKCPS Ltd.  I didnt realise that.  So I need to write to them ? And quote equality act?

They will not be the owner of the car park they only manage (allegedly) Parking.

Why have you started two threads for the same parking charge? This is going to get very confusing!!

Coupon-mad

It seems that the owner of the car park is UKCPS Ltd. 

They absolutely are not!

No-one said to complain to them.  They are knuckle-dragging ex-clampers with (IMHO) the requisite bullyboy mentality, based on our experience of UKCPS over more than a decade.

We did say appeal and show your Blue Badge to dispute the matter ONCE.  It looks better than ignoring it but this year, there is no independent appeals service so no point trying anything else to UKCPS or daft debt chasers.

Certainly NO PHONING ANYONE.

Then ignore them, but keep all paperwork and tell UKCPS if you move house, in case you ever get a small claim to defend (perfectly winnable).

The complaint is a separate thing and goes to the site landowner.  Google the place.

diystarter7

thepeachyone said:

fisherjim said:

Although it's no relevant displaying can be considered a courtesy to the PPC to save them the bother of going through the motions they do to clarify but of course they just want money so don't play fair.

You certainly don't contact Debt Recovery Plus who are just a waste of space.

It seems that the owner of the car park is UKCPS Ltd.  I didnt realise that.  So I need to write to them ? And quote equality act?

"quote quality act" sorry but you lost me.
Thnaks

Coupon-mad

Mushyyy10 said:

Hi, sorry to jump on this thread. I've just had a window PCN from PCM for parking in a disabled bay without displaying my badge, in a shopping centre car park. However, my car is a company lease car. Would the above info be different for appealing a company lease car?

I have read the newbie thread and the bit about not displaying blue badge and lease cars but there doesn't seem to be anything to cover both situations and I don't want to go about this the wrong way. 

Thanks in advance 

Please start your own new discussion post.  Your case may or may not be similar.

What is true in every case is DO NOT PAY!

Coupon-mad

thepeachyone said:

knightstyle said:

Everyone who gets this type of PCN should contact the owner of the car park explaining what happened and supplying a copy of the BB.
If it was a dedicated parking area write to the store manager and try to give the letter in person to the manager.

So I find the owner of car park and write to them rather than UKCPS or Debt recovery plus?

Like this?

Regarding parking charge notice xxx
Dated xxx the driver has a protected characteristic (disability) under the Equality Act 2010.  Therefore the charge must be cancelled.

(Do you mention a blue badge as its been stated not relevant in a private car park)

Thankyou.

Yes you attach a copy of it and politely tell them that their rogue parking firm are causing you distress and harassment and must make a reasonable adjustment and cancel the charge.

Failure to do so will place the landowner and parking firm (both) in flagrant breach of their legal duties under the Equality Act 2010 and also signals an abject failure to pay regard to the new (incoming) Government Code of Practice which says all private PCNs 'must' be cancelled in these exact circumstances.

thepeachyone

I'm having problems finding the owner of this car park.  I googled it, thought it said ukcps...so I thought I would take a screenshot.  Then I couldn't find it.  

If someone would like to help me out, it's
Retail World Parkgate Rotherham 
It has changed hands a few times I believe.  Hercules sold it to someone else.

thepeachyone

Fruitcake said:

It is very rare for a PPC to own a car park. I suggest you dig deeper.

Where did the alleged event happen? It may have cropped up here before.

Ignore debt collectors. Do not 'phone anyone.

Look up the relevant parts of the EA 2010, and get photos of the site and signage (without getting another PCN of course).

I cant find the owner.

It's Retail World Parkgate Rotherham 

I'm really confused now.