We have ‘used’ 600 litres of heating oil in 8 days!

matelodave

cannugec5 said:

matelodave said:

You could do what my bro did and install the new tank himself 

If it is not meeting legislation then the drivers could refuse to deliver oil to it. 

if they delivered to the existing tank, why should they not deliver to a replacement in the same place.

MikeJXE

cannugec5 said:

MikeJXE said:

Personally I would have a new temporary over ground pipe fitted rather than go without heating 

The Heating Engineer has come back to us, with this as a possibility. He is getting the pipe. It will be longer as it will have to go round the perimeter to prevent it being driven over. 

It will enable us to use up whatever oil remains  in the tank. 

Initially when I asked if it was possible he wasn’t sure if it would be legal, but has checked up. As long as it is only a temporary solution we can have an over ground pipe. 

At least that buys us time:) 

Ok now you are using some brains. Try to make sure the route is over soft surfaces rather than concrete or tarmac, 

I doubt it will be a rigid pipe so it should be reasonably flexible

Once he has laid the pipe overground get some young lad to dig it in for you, it doesn't have to be deep 4 inch should be good enough 

Out of sight out of mind

lohr500

MikeJXE said:

Once he has laid the pipe overground get some young lad to dig it in for you, it doesn't have to be deep 4 inch should be good enough 

Oftec would strongly disagree with you on that one. Their recommendation is over 4 1/2 times deeper than your suggestion!

Buried fuel supply pipes

Directly buried fuel supply pipes should be protected against the risk of accidental damage caused by digging. The recommended installation method is as follows:

• A trench should be excavated to a depth of 450mm
• 40mm of compacted sand is laid on the bottom of the trench, the fuel supply pipe positioned, and a further 40mm of compacted sand is laid above the pipe
• Builder’s grade polyethylene is laid above the sand and the trench is then backfilled, positioning fuel supply pipe warning marker tape 150mm below the finished ground level.

Fuel supply pipes should be buried at least 300mm clear of other underground services such as water and electricity. Joints should be avoided in buried pipework, if possible. If joints need to be made, they should be within an inspection chamber.

MikeJXE

lohr500 said:

MikeJXE said:

Once he has laid the pipe overground get some young lad to dig it in for you, it doesn't have to be deep 4 inch should be good enough 

Oftec would strongly disagree with you on that one. Their recommendation is over 4 1/2 times deeper than your suggestion!

Buried fuel supply pipes

Directly buried fuel supply pipes should be protected against the risk of accidental damage caused by digging. The recommended installation method is as follows:

• A trench should be excavated to a depth of 450mm
• 40mm of compacted sand is laid on the bottom of the trench, the fuel supply pipe positioned, and a further 40mm of compacted sand is laid above the pipe
• Builder’s grade polyethylene is laid above the sand and the trench is then backfilled, positioning fuel supply pipe warning marker tape 150mm below the finished ground level.

Fuel supply pipes should be buried at least 300mm clear of other underground services such as water and electricity. Joints should be avoided in buried pipework, if possible. If joints need to be made, they should be within an inspection chamber.

We can all quote legislation, 

Thats the standard for all utility pipes but doesn't mean it always happens 

It's a temporary measure until something more permanent can be decided, that could take a week, month or even longer depending on lots of possibilities 

cannugec5

We have finally got a temporary fuel line in. That’s 15 days without our central heating. It felt awful, but I’m well aware that there are very many people worse off. 

We also had a new “Smart meter” fitted today - except it could not communicate so we have a nice, new, shiny Dumb Meter! I’m not surprised. This is the first time they have ever suggested Smart Meters might work in this area. They don’t! 

But we are feeling optimistic. We are warm again. We have an Air Source Assessor coming tomorrow to see if our house is suitable for an Air Source Heat Pump and if so we can get it  installed ASAP, so that we can continue with our plan to convert the garage into a bedroom. 

I’m having orthopaedic surgery next month. 

Would like things sorted first if possible. 

Reed_Richards

So ASHP ASAP?  Unless you have a lot of underfloor heating or a lot of free wall space in the vicinity of your existing radiators then I would not trust any assessor who tells you that an ASHP will be cheaper to run than an oil boiler (that is working properly).  Then it's really just a matter of whether your existing central heating pipes are large enough in diameter to cope with the higher flow rates that a heat pump uses.  And how much it will all cost, of course.    

lohr500

MikeJXE said:

lohr500 said:

MikeJXE said:

Once he has laid the pipe overground get some young lad to dig it in for you, it doesn't have to be deep 4 inch should be good enough 

Oftec would strongly disagree with you on that one. Their recommendation is over 4 1/2 times deeper than your suggestion!

Buried fuel supply pipes

Directly buried fuel supply pipes should be protected against the risk of accidental damage caused by digging. The recommended installation method is as follows:

• A trench should be excavated to a depth of 450mm
• 40mm of compacted sand is laid on the bottom of the trench, the fuel supply pipe positioned, and a further 40mm of compacted sand is laid above the pipe
• Builder’s grade polyethylene is laid above the sand and the trench is then backfilled, positioning fuel supply pipe warning marker tape 150mm below the finished ground level.

Fuel supply pipes should be buried at least 300mm clear of other underground services such as water and electricity. Joints should be avoided in buried pipework, if possible. If joints need to be made, they should be within an inspection chamber.

We can all quote legislation, 

Thats the standard for all utility pipes but doesn't mean it always happens 

It's a temporary measure until something more permanent can be decided, that could take a week, month or even longer depending on lots of possibilities 

I have no issues with a temporary above ground fix even if it has to remain there until the warmer weather arrives, but your suggestion to then "get some young lad to dig it in for you"  at a depth of 4 inches is in my opinion irresponsible.

Qyburn

MikeJXE said:

lohr500 said:

MikeJXE said:

Once he has laid the pipe overground get some young lad to dig it in for you, it doesn't have to be deep 4 inch should be good enough 

Oftec would strongly disagree with you on that one. Their recommendation is over 4 1/2 times deeper than your suggestion!

Buried fuel supply pipes

Directly buried fuel supply pipes should be protected against the risk of accidental damage caused by digging. The recommended installation method is as follows:

• A trench should be excavated to a depth of 450mm
• 40mm of compacted sand is laid on the bottom of the trench, the fuel supply pipe positioned, and a further 40mm of compacted sand is laid above the pipe
• Builder’s grade polyethylene is laid above the sand and the trench is then backfilled, positioning fuel supply pipe warning marker tape 150mm below the finished ground level.

Fuel supply pipes should be buried at least 300mm clear of other underground services such as water and electricity. Joints should be avoided in buried pipework, if possible. If joints need to be made, they should be within an inspection chamber.

We can all quote legislation, 

That wasn't even legislation, just recommendation.

It's good advice about sand and warning tape. But I'd take the first paragraph as two points .. "Directly buried fuel supply pipes should be protected against the risk of accidental damage caused by digging" That makes sense, they should be protected. Then everything following is just their suggestion how to ensure this. Unless someone can cite actual legislation or case law making this a legal requirement.

cannugec5

Thought it about time I updated this thread. We had the temporary above ground fuel pipe removed in August when the heat pump was installed.