Induction vs gas, running costs

waqasahmed

I'll be eventually moving away from gas regardless, and the odd person might think that induction will at least be on parity with gas when it comes to running costs 


If you want to see that maths broken down, see
https://www.trustedreviews.com/explainer/can-induction-hobs-save-you-money-4230890

Again, I'll be ditching gas entirely anyway. I've just got to do:
Get more solar panels 
Air tightness 
MVHR installation 
Triple glazing
Upgrade pipes 
Upgrade radiators 
Heat pump water storage + heat pump right at the very end, to get the best COP
Then also get an induction cooker 

In the long term, I can't see myself using gas bit if anyone was looking to maybe get induction because they think it's cheaper to run, think again 

andyg9053

Typical press report. At the bottom the figures are all wrong. If induction is 90% efficient and gas only 40% then you would use more than twice as much gas as stated

Solarchaser

If gas and electricity were the same price, induction would be much cheaper to run.

Induction heats the actual bottom of the pot and means that even when you have the pot on, you can usually touch the sides of the pot and not get burned, gas heats everything around the pot as well as heating the outside of the pot.

If you believe the government, they state they will be making moves to detach the price of electricity from the price of gas.... should have been done years ago.
If that happens, electricity prices should fall significantly when the wind is blowing 

Screwdriva

There is also the safety benefit of induction over gas I suppose! 

Fascinating read!  I was considering deleting the ol gas hob but now....

waqasahmed

Solarchaser said:

If gas and electricity were the same price, induction would be much cheaper to run.

Induction heats the actual bottom of the pot and means that even when you have the pot on, you can usually touch the sides of the pot and not get burned, gas heats everything around the pot as well as heating the outside of the pot.

If you believe the government, they state they will be making moves to detach the price of electricity from the price of gas.... should have been done years ago.
If that happens, electricity prices should fall significantly when the wind is blowing 

It is absolutely a possibility that the government will force the hand of the market, or more so not give levies for gas, and add it to electricity instead 

Right now, it does seem if you've got a heat pump, you probably won't get an ROI on it. I absolutely will get one knowing that it likely won't save me any money, but that's after doing all the efficiency upgrades first

Ditto for an induction cooker. There's no ROI (yet) You could say you "break even" with a heat pump but you don't exactly do that with an induction cooker

That is, unless the government changes the market 

waqasahmed

Screwdriva said:

There is also the safety benefit of induction over gas I suppose! 

Fascinating read!  I was considering deleting the ol gas hob but now....

I still think induction will be the way to go, regardless tbh 

In the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, western countries are looking to seriously reduce reliance on gas. Yes, we might not get ours from Russia but we have effectively removed a major supplier from the market 

waqasahmed

andyg9053 said:

Typical press report. At the bottom the figures are all wrong. If induction is 90% efficient and gas only 40% then you would use more than twice as much gas as stated

Even then, £100 is obviously still cheaper than £200

Again, I absolutely will get an induction hob eventually but it probably isn't a good idea to do so, unless you're doing it to be more green vs looking to save cash

silverwhistle

I'd get an induction hob anyway. They're just nicer to use, safer and no combustion products, the top is easy to clean and acts as a handy work surface when not in use. The fuel cost was not a consideration when I bought mine, but I don't think there is too much in it either way to worry about.

Some people will say you'll need new pots etc. but most people interested in cooking will have suitable pans anyway, and my Ikea hob was not expensive to replace my old condemned gas hob.

waqasahmed

silverwhistle said:

I'd get an induction hob anyway. They're just nicer to use, safer and no combustion products, the top is easy to clean and acts as a handy work surface when not in use. The fuel cost was not a consideration when I bought mine, but I don't think there is too much in it either way to worry about.

Some people will say you'll need new pots etc. but most people interested in cooking will have suitable pans anyway, and my Ikea hob was not expensive to replace my old condemned gas hob.

Same tbf.. I'll be getting one anyway but I reckon a lot of people will be disappointed if they're getting one for the pure point of saving money 

Martyn1981

waqasahmed said:

andyg9053 said:

Typical press report. At the bottom the figures are all wrong. If induction is 90% efficient and gas only 40% then you would use more than twice as much gas as stated

Even then, £100 is obviously still cheaper than £200

Again, I absolutely will get an induction hob eventually but it probably isn't a good idea to do so, unless you're doing it to be more green vs looking to save cash

I appreciate you are already committed, but if you, or anyone else has doubts, then you can buy portable induction hobs for low prices, starting at £40(ish) single, £80 for a double. That way you can try them out, move it around (if there's a need?) or simply have a hybrid kitchen, and pop it away when not in use, like other smaller appliances.

Cleaning is easier too, since it's a smooth glass surface, and spills don't get cooked hard as the surrounding area stays cool.

matelodave

I'm with @silverwhistle - they are cleaner to cook with, dont produce condensation like burning gas does. They are easier to clean as food doesn't burn or stick and you dont have to spend a fortune on "special" cookware.

We've got Tesco Stainless Steel cookware, £30 for three saucepans which TBH are also easier to clean than our old aluminium pans.

Certainly wouldn't go back to gas even if we could