House purchase information from 2011

jcuurthht

Hello, I am filing my tax return in Germany and I no longer have the purchase information of a property I purchased in 2011. The conveyancer is no longer in business, and I'm not sure they keep documents over 12 years anyway.

Is there any way I can get proof of the purchase costs? e.g. something like a copy of the transfer title

Edit: I forgot to say that the property was since sold

theartfullodger

Which country is property in please?

You have absolutely no paper or electronic files or records,

jcuurthht

theartfullodger said:

Which country is property in please?

You have absolutely no paper or electronic files or records,

England. I have no records of the purchase.

I also forgot to say that I have already sold the property, so I am no longer on the current title register.

user1977

jcuurthht said:

The conveyancer is no longer in business

Meaning what? Were they taken over by another firm? If so, have you asked them?

SDLT_Geek

jcuurthht said:

Hello, I am filing my tax return in Germany and I no longer have the purchase information of a property I purchased in 2011. The conveyancer is no longer in business, and I'm not sure they keep documents over 12 years anyway.

Is there any way I can get proof of the purchase costs? e.g. something like a copy of the transfer title

Edit: I forgot to say that the property was since sold

It is possible to get historical register entries from the Land Registry.  You can find out the title number on line and then apply for entries for a date during your ownership.  That should give you evidence of the date the purchase completed and the price paid.

user1977

Presumably also from HMRC if you had submitted an SDLT return? Not sure how easy in practice it is to get that though.

jcuurthht

user1977 said:

jcuurthht said:

The conveyancer is no longer in business

Meaning what? Were they taken over by another firm? If so, have you asked them?

Retired and unable to contact.

SDLT_Geek said:

jcuurthht said:

Hello, I am filing my tax return in Germany and I no longer have the purchase information of a property I purchased in 2011. The conveyancer is no longer in business, and I'm not sure they keep documents over 12 years anyway.

Is there any way I can get proof of the purchase costs? e.g. something like a copy of the transfer title

Edit: I forgot to say that the property was since sold

It is possible to get historical register entries from the Land Registry.  You can find out the title number on line and then apply for entries for a date during your ownership.  That should give you evidence of the date the purchase completed and the price paid.

Yeah I have just found the form and will take this route.

I have also asked the conveyancer who helped me sell the property if they have a copy of the title register from when I was the owner.

R20223

jcuurthht said:

user1977 said:

jcuurthht said:

The conveyancer is no longer in business

Meaning what? Were they taken over by another firm? If so, have you asked them?

Retired and unable to contact.

SDLT_Geek said:

jcuurthht said:

Hello, I am filing my tax return in Germany and I no longer have the purchase information of a property I purchased in 2011. The conveyancer is no longer in business, and I'm not sure they keep documents over 12 years anyway.

Is there any way I can get proof of the purchase costs? e.g. something like a copy of the transfer title

Edit: I forgot to say that the property was since sold

It is possible to get historical register entries from the Land Registry.  You can find out the title number on line and then apply for entries for a date during your ownership.  That should give you evidence of the date the purchase completed and the price paid.

Yeah I have just found the form and will take this route.

I have also asked the conveyancer who helped me sell the property if they have a copy of the title register from when I was the owner.

It’s possible to search online 
https://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ppd

MikeJXE

I Just paid land registry £3 to find out who owns a property 

It appears you can find historic owners on Land Registry 

Tracing Previous Ownerships

Each Title Register contains the name and address of the owner of the property in its B section. The first date in the B section, contained in brackets, is the date upon which the current ownership first became registered, following a purchase, which would generally be within 2 months up to that date. 

The date of the current ownership might also be the same date as the date of first registration of the property (the first date in brackets in the A section). This will occur where the property is purchased and registered for the first time.

Title Registers only show the name and address of the current owners and not any prior owners. To discover the names and addresses of prior owners one may apply for our Historic Edition (Prior Edition) of the Title Register,

A precise date must be given to search for as the Title Register will only show the ownership as it was on a specified date. Therefore a date prior to the first date in brackets in the B section of the current Title Register will provide you with a copy of the Title Register for the previous owner.

One can continue to search back to 1993 by obtaining a prior Title Register in this manner. Once back to 1993 then one can continue to trace for prior ownerships by obtaining a copy of all the available digital copies of the purchase deeds (conveyances and transfers) using our Deeds Search.

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Evidencing Your Prior Ownership

It often happens that persons need evidence that they used to own a property that they have now sold.

So long as you owned the property after 1993 and it was registered then you should be able to obtain a copy of the prior Title Register.

jcuurthht

R20223 said:

jcuurthht said:

user1977 said:

jcuurthht said:

The conveyancer is no longer in business

Meaning what? Were they taken over by another firm? If so, have you asked them?

Retired and unable to contact.

SDLT_Geek said:

jcuurthht said:

Hello, I am filing my tax return in Germany and I no longer have the purchase information of a property I purchased in 2011. The conveyancer is no longer in business, and I'm not sure they keep documents over 12 years anyway.

Is there any way I can get proof of the purchase costs? e.g. something like a copy of the transfer title

Edit: I forgot to say that the property was since sold

It is possible to get historical register entries from the Land Registry.  You can find out the title number on line and then apply for entries for a date during your ownership.  That should give you evidence of the date the purchase completed and the price paid.

Yeah I have just found the form and will take this route.

I have also asked the conveyancer who helped me sell the property if they have a copy of the title register from when I was the owner.

It’s possible to search online 
https://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ppd

Pretty cool, but unfortunatley doesn't show the owner information.

MikeJXE said:

I Just paid land registry £3 to find out who owns a property 

It appears you can find historic owners on Land Registry 

Tracing Previous Ownerships

Each Title Register contains the name and address of the owner of the property in its B section. The first date in the B section, contained in brackets, is the date upon which the current ownership first became registered, following a purchase, which would generally be within 2 months up to that date. 

The date of the current ownership might also be the same date as the date of first registration of the property (the first date in brackets in the A section). This will occur where the property is purchased and registered for the first time.

Title Registers only show the name and address of the current owners and not any prior owners. To discover the names and addresses of prior owners one may apply for our Historic Edition (Prior Edition) of the Title Register,

A precise date must be given to search for as the Title Register will only show the ownership as it was on a specified date. Therefore a date prior to the first date in brackets in the B section of the current Title Register will provide you with a copy of the Title Register for the previous owner.

One can continue to search back to 1993 by obtaining a prior Title Register in this manner. Once back to 1993 then one can continue to trace for prior ownerships by obtaining a copy of all the available digital copies of the purchase deeds (conveyances and transfers) using our Deeds Search.

---

Evidencing Your Prior Ownership

It often happens that persons need evidence that they used to own a property that they have now sold.

So long as you owned the property after 1993 and it was registered then you should be able to obtain a copy of the prior Title Register.

Yeah I've just filled in and sent a Historic Registry form. Thanks.

TBagpuss

IF you check Rightmove in the 'sold prices' section it may also show up, althoguh of course it may not be good enough evidence for the tax office ! 
I just looked up my previous house and it hasthe details of sales back to 2002.