Dishwasher advice

casper_gutman

Our older dishwasher is an Indesit. A cheap integrated slimline. It still works after about seven years, but it's not been without problems. First the door switch failed, so it wouldn't start. We had an independent repairer out who replaced the switch, and suggested this was a common issue with the model in question. More recently it stopped opening the detergent dispenser door. Apparently this can be fixed only by replacing the main control board, which isn't really worth doing, so now we just chuck an all-in-one tablet in the bottom of the machine. This seems to work okay, and has done for the last three years.

adonis10

casper_gutman said:

Our older dishwasher is an Indesit. A cheap integrated slimline. It still works after about seven years, but it's not been without problems. First the door switch failed, so it wouldn't start. We had an independent repairer out who replaced the switch, and suggested this was a common issue with the model in question. More recently it stopped opening the detergent dispenser door. Apparently this can be fixed only by replacing the main control board, which isn't really worth doing, so now we just chuck an all-in-one tablet in the bottom of the machine. This seems to work okay, and has done for the last three years.

Same happened with our hotpoint, after a few months the detergent drawer stopped opening so resorted to just chucking it in. Fair to say i won’t be using hotpoint for anything else.

I’ve resolved to just going to currys at the weekend and making a decision based on what they have in store in the 300-450 price range. And hope for the best.

EssexExile

adonis10 said:

Any thoughts on indesit? Looks to be part of the whirlpool group, as is hotpoint, but don’t want to tar it with the hotpoint brush if that’s unfair!

What I can’t decide is whether it’s worth paying say £450 over £350 - this strikes me as having some extra features like smart phone control which I absolutely don’t want or need, rather than reliability. Also more programs, well I use about 3 (quick, intensive and glass clean occasionally), so am wondering if it’s worth paying £300-350 for a model to last a couple of years or go into the realms of £600/700 etc to aim for greater reliability. Rather pay £700 now for 6 years than £300 3 times in that period. But how on earth do I get comfort that I’m actually getting better reliability?

As I've said before you don't know who makes what. Indesit, Ariston, Hotpoint, Creda, Whirlpool are all the same company and products can be made anywhere, within the bigger company or outside it. Any £300 to £400 dishwasher should last more than a couple of years if used properly, I've had two in 30 years. I certainly wouldn't pay £600 for a dishwasher.

adonis10

EssexExile said:

adonis10 said:

Any thoughts on indesit? Looks to be part of the whirlpool group, as is hotpoint, but don’t want to tar it with the hotpoint brush if that’s unfair!

What I can’t decide is whether it’s worth paying say £450 over £350 - this strikes me as having some extra features like smart phone control which I absolutely don’t want or need, rather than reliability. Also more programs, well I use about 3 (quick, intensive and glass clean occasionally), so am wondering if it’s worth paying £300-350 for a model to last a couple of years or go into the realms of £600/700 etc to aim for greater reliability. Rather pay £700 now for 6 years than £300 3 times in that period. But how on earth do I get comfort that I’m actually getting better reliability?

As I've said before you don't know who makes what. Indesit, Ariston, Hotpoint, Creda, Whirlpool are all the same company and products can be made anywhere, within the bigger company or outside it. Any £300 to £400 dishwasher should last more than a couple of years if used properly, I've had two in 30 years. I certainly wouldn't pay £600 for a dishwasher.

Fair point. We’ve had 3 in 6.5 years which is frankly insane. Really well looked after and not overused. Makes no sense.

goodwithsaving

Wouldn't touch Hotpoint or Whirlpool group knowing what awful aftercare they have. I'd wait a bit longer and go for a Bosch, Siemens, Miele. Buy cheap, get junk......
I'd expect to pay £500-700.
I'm changing my kitchen eventually so in the interim I bought a 1 year old Bosch one secondhand for a couple of hundred pounds from somebody local. 

adonis10

Question about the wash cycles - I’ve bought one and cannot fathom how an eco wash is 3 hrs and 10 mins yet is apparently almost as energy efficient as a 30 minute quick wash, and uses less water.

How does this even make sense? Am I to believe that a programme taking over 3 hours will add less to my smart meter than one lasting 30 minutes?

chrisw

adonis10 said:

Question about the wash cycles - I’ve bought one and cannot fathom how an eco wash is 3 hrs and 10 mins yet is apparently almost as energy efficient as a 30 minute quick wash, and uses less water.

How does this even make sense? Am I to believe that a programme taking over 3 hours will add less to my smart meter than one lasting 30 minutes?

It's the heater which uses the most electrical power so rather than blasting everything with lots of heat and water to try and get stuff clean quickly, it keeps slushing away using the same water at lower temperatures to soften and remove the food that way.

olgadapolga

Over the last 30 years of home ownership, we've had two dishwashers. The first was a Bosch, which was complete rubbish and failed within a couple of years. We replaced it with a Miele, and it's still with us. Well worth the massive cost compared to the Bosch.

The only complaint I have about the Miele is that the plastic cutlery basket has a small break at the bottom (the bottom has a grid, obviously, to allow the water to escape and one of the tiny slats has broken).

Fjesrs68

Dishwasher Dilemma? 

Please could you all advise and help me decide on a new slimline freestanding white dishwasher?
My AEG one has is less than 4 years old and has recently failed. Fortunately, it was covered by a 5 year extended warranty with Currys. They can't fix it so (very long story short!) I have now received a voucher from them towards a new machine.
I've had 3 dishwashers over the last 20 years, the first a Bosch Classic lasted 9 years, the second a Bosch Excell lasted about 7 years and lastly this AEG just under 4 years. I would have bought Bosch last time but the model I liked was out of stock, so I chose the AEG, hoping it would be a good brand that would last.
I'm tempted to go for Bosch again but when I went to my local Currys branch earlier their choice was disappointing, only 2 freestanding slim models to look at.

They had the Bosch Series 2 SPS21KW04G @ £399
Or the Hotpoint HSF03T223 W Uk @ £379.
Looking online they also have another Bosch Series 4 SPS4HMW53G, quite a bit more @ £579.

Please could any of you tell me what experience you have of any of these models, or whether you'd recommend any others - hopefully with a decent lifespan? Unfortunately, due to the voucher, I'm obliged to go with Currys, otherwise I'd purchase elsewhere.

Is the Bosch one really worth the extra outlay at £579?

I really appreciate your help and opinions.

Postik

adonis10 said:

Question about the wash cycles - I’ve bought one and cannot fathom how an eco wash is 3 hrs and 10 mins yet is apparently almost as energy efficient as a 30 minute quick wash, and uses less water.

How does this even make sense? Am I to believe that a programme taking over 3 hours will add less to my smart meter than one lasting 30 minutes?

As someone else said above, it uses a lower temperature and less water but sloshes the water around for a lot longer.  I've been using eco exclusively for the last couple of months and have noticed a drop in our electric bill although it could be coincidental.  I do now use the 3 hour time delay and put it on before going to bed because the eco mode takes about 4 hours!