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Lending to a discretionary trust

Sterlingtimes
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I envisage that the following situation will occur before too long:
A discretionary trust owns a flat worth more than £100,000. The cash in the trust bank account is less than £1,000. The trust can sell the flat in time, but the trust has ongoing expenses such as service charges and land rental for the flat.
Can a trustee make a personal loan to the trust to meet short-term expenses?
A discretionary trust owns a flat worth more than £100,000. The cash in the trust bank account is less than £1,000. The trust can sell the flat in time, but the trust has ongoing expenses such as service charges and land rental for the flat.
Can a trustee make a personal loan to the trust to meet short-term expenses?
I have osteoarthritis in my hands so I speak my messages into a microphone using Dragon. Some people make "typos" but I often make "speakos".
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https://www.farrer.co.uk/news-and-insights/how-to-lend-to-trustees/
may be of interest.
Are you the only Trustee?
Who are the potential beneficiaries?
As far as I can see, you would be making a loan from you as a private individual to yourself as the Trustee of the Trust.
I am not a solicitor but I would have thought that there would be no legal obstacle but that you should draw up a formal loan agreement and have it formally witnessed and dated by two people in the presence of you and each other as you would for a will.
Would you intend to charge interest? If so, you would need to think very carefully about the rate charged (conflict of your duty to the beneficiary and your own rights) and also about any tax implications?
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Be very aware of the costs that could be incurred with anything to do with a Trust.
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xylophone said:https://www.farrer.co.uk/news-and-insights/how-to-lend-to-trustees/
may be of interest.
Are you the only Trustee?
Who are the potential beneficiaries?
As far as I can see, you would be making a loan from you as a private individual to yourself as the Trustee of the Trust.
I am not a solicitor but I would have thought that there would be no legal obstacle but that you should draw up a formal loan agreement and have it formally witnessed and dated by two people in the presence of you and each other as you would for a will.
Would you intend to charge interest? If so, you would need to think very carefully about the rate charged (conflict of your duty to the beneficiary and your own rights) and also about any tax implications?I have osteoarthritis in my hands so I speak my messages into a microphone using Dragon. Some people make "typos" but I often make "speakos".1 -
greyteam1959 said:Be very aware of the costs that could be incurred with anything to do with a Trust.I have osteoarthritis in my hands so I speak my messages into a microphone using Dragon. Some people make "typos" but I often make "speakos".0
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Have you registered the Trust with the Trust Registration Service (as virtually all trusts now need to be registered...in fact should have been by Sep 2022 I believe)?How long has the trust been in existence? As there are potentially requirements to submit tax returns and settle some IHT liabilities depending on value of trust on each 10 year anniversary of the establishment of the trust (plus again potentially tax due on any distribution out of trust to the beneficiaries). However, I presume from what you've said it Is just the one property in the trust and no other assets apart from the small amount of cash and, based on the value of the flat, you are likely to be OKUnless you are proposing to sell the trust asset shortly, distribute proceeds and wind up the trust it might also be an idea to consider adding a second trustee (if the trusts deeds don't prohibit it) so that there aren't issues if anything should happen to you.[Apologies in advance if you were already aware of these matters]1
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Shedman said:Have you registered the Trust with the Trust Registration Service (as virtually all trusts now need to be registered...in fact should have been by Sep 2022 I believe)?How long has the trust been in existence? As there are potentially requirements to submit tax returns and settle some IHT liabilities depending on value of trust on each 10 year anniversary of the establishment of the trust (plus again potentially tax due on any distribution out of trust to the beneficiaries). However, I presume from what you've said it Is just the one property in the trust and no other assets apart from the small amount of cash and, based on the value of the flat, you are likely to be OKUnless you are proposing to sell the trust asset shortly, distribute proceeds and wind up the trust it might also be an idea to consider adding a second trustee (if the trusts deeds don't prohibit it) so that there aren't issues if anything should happen to you.[Apologies in advance if you were already aware of these matters]I have osteoarthritis in my hands so I speak my messages into a microphone using Dragon. Some people make "typos" but I often make "speakos".0
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