Replacement toilet seat Version 2

millie

ave a stained toilet seat that I want to replace but cannot find one the same. There are no holes underneath that the bolts go through.
We did have it off once but the screws have rusted in now. There were 2 flat metal plates mounted on the back of the toilet which my husband seems to think the seat slid into but he cannot be sure because it was a long time ago . I do not want him drilling the screws out incase he cannot fit the seat back on. Leaving us with no usable toilet. I have tried the local pluming shop but they want a photo which I cannot get without removing it.
Has anyone any idea what type of fixing it i

Thank you for all the replies to my previous post. I am trying to add photos and it will not let me so I will try again. The hinges look very grubby, my husband spray painted them when the chrome finish peeled off, now thw paint is wearing off

Ebe_Scrooge

I've not come across that particular fitting before, but it looks like there's potentially 2 ways of removing it, going by the second picture.  Either pull/twist off the "end caps", which may pull out the locating pin, or else undo the small screw at the front of each hinge - you'll need to have a bit of a look and play around to see which it is.

But once you've got it off, you can replace it with any standard "top-fixing" seat as per my previous reply.  There are tons to choose from - we got our last couple from Amazon, but they're widely available online, plumber's merchants, Wickes, B&Q, etc. etc.  Just make sure that the seat dimensions and the distance between the hinges (usually adjustable to some degree) will fit your pan.  The new seat will come with fittings/hinges, so you don't need to worry if you damage the existing ones trying to get them off.

MikeJXE

there is probably a wing nut under the toilet where the seat is fixed 

Ebe_Scrooge

MikeJXE said:

there is probably a wing nut under the toilet where the seat is fixed 

OP said:

millie said:

There are no holes underneath that the bolts go through.

Which is why I suspect it's probably a "top fixing" - sometimes referred to as "blind hole" fixing.  Not at all uncommon these days.

MikeJXE

Ebe_Scrooge said:

MikeJXE said:

there is probably a wing nut under the toilet where the seat is fixed 

OP said:

millie said:

There are no holes underneath that the bolts go through.

Which is why I suspect it's probably a "top fixing" - sometimes referred to as "blind hole" fixing.  Not at all uncommon these days.

A blind hole toilet doesn't mean there is no holes in the toilet, it's a blind fixing meaning it's fitted from the top and not visible

Probably a bung in the toilet hole and screw fixed from the top 

If you feel under the toilet you will find there is a hole but it is filled with a bung probably plastic in which case your only access is from the top

millie

Ebe_Scrooge said:

I've not come across that particular fitting before, but it looks like there's potentially 2 ways of removing it, going by the second picture.  Either pull/twist off the "end caps", which may pull out the locating pin, or else undo the small screw at the front of each hinge - you'll need to have a bit of a look and play around to see which it is.

But once you've got it off, you can replace it with any standard "top-fixing" seat as per my previous reply.  There are tons to choose from - we got our last couple from Amazon, but they're widely available online, plumber's merchants, Wickes, B&Q, etc. etc.  Just make sure that the seat dimensions and the distance between the hinges (usually adjustable to some degree) will fit your pan.  The new seat will come with fittings/hinges, so you don't need to worry if you damage the existing ones trying to get them off.

There are no end caps the round things are part of the seat attached to it and the screws are rusted in

Ebe_Scrooge

MikeJXE said:

Ebe_Scrooge said:

MikeJXE said:

there is probably a wing nut under the toilet where the seat is fixed 

OP said:

millie said:

There are no holes underneath that the bolts go through.

Which is why I suspect it's probably a "top fixing" - sometimes referred to as "blind hole" fixing.  Not at all uncommon these days.

A blind hole toilet doesn't mean there is no holes in the toilet, it's a blind fixing meaning it's fitted from the top and not visible

Probably a bung in the toilet hole and screw fixed from the top 

If you feel under the toilet you will find there is a hole but it is filled with a bung probably plastic in which case your only access is from the top

I'm happy to be corrected, but that's how the toilets in my house are fitted.  There's two holes in the top of the pan, one for each hinge, but no holes underneath.  To secure the seat, you push a rubber "bung" into the hole (as you say), then screw into that - the bung expands as the screw goes in, and holds the hinge in place.  But there's definitely no hole in the bottom, sealed or not

Similar to this, though there are dozens and dozens available from many suppliers: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toilet-Fixings-Universal-Expanding-Fittings/dp/B07HNL4NLY/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?keywords=top+fixing+toilet+seat+fittings&qid=1672850136&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

MikeJXE

The screws in those caps are something to do with it but they look like Allen key to me, undo them see what gives 

millie

MikeJXE said:

Ebe_Scrooge said:

MikeJXE said:

there is probably a wing nut under the toilet where the seat is fixed 

OP said:

millie said:

There are no holes underneath that the bolts go through.

Which is why I suspect it's probably a "top fixing" - sometimes referred to as "blind hole" fixing.  Not at all uncommon these days.

A blind hole toilet doesn't mean there is no holes in the toilet, it's a blind fixing meaning it's fitted from the top and not visible

Probably a bung in the toilet hole and screw fixed from the top 

If you feel under the toilet you will find there is a hole but it is filled with a bung probably plastic in which case your only access is from the top

There are no holes in there at all. Sometime ago we had the seat off as my Husband spray painted the hinges and we have felt all round underneath. There is a gradual slope underneath not like the normal flat bit

Ebe_Scrooge

millie said:

Ebe_Scrooge said:

I've not come across that particular fitting before, but it looks like there's potentially 2 ways of removing it, going by the second picture.  Either pull/twist off the "end caps", which may pull out the locating pin, or else undo the small screw at the front of each hinge - you'll need to have a bit of a look and play around to see which it is.

But once you've got it off, you can replace it with any standard "top-fixing" seat as per my previous reply.  There are tons to choose from - we got our last couple from Amazon, but they're widely available online, plumber's merchants, Wickes, B&Q, etc. etc.  Just make sure that the seat dimensions and the distance between the hinges (usually adjustable to some degree) will fit your pan.  The new seat will come with fittings/hinges, so you don't need to worry if you damage the existing ones trying to get them off.

There are no end caps the round things are part of the seat attached to it and the screws are rusted in

In that case I'd say the simplest thing is cut the hinges off with a hacksaw.  Be very careful, you really don't want to scratch the top of the pan.  A new seat is cheap, a whole new toilet, less so

millie

Ebe_Scrooge said:

millie said:

Ebe_Scrooge said:

I've not come across that particular fitting before, but it looks like there's potentially 2 ways of removing it, going by the second picture.  Either pull/twist off the "end caps", which may pull out the locating pin, or else undo the small screw at the front of each hinge - you'll need to have a bit of a look and play around to see which it is.

But once you've got it off, you can replace it with any standard "top-fixing" seat as per my previous reply.  There are tons to choose from - we got our last couple from Amazon, but they're widely available online, plumber's merchants, Wickes, B&Q, etc. etc.  Just make sure that the seat dimensions and the distance between the hinges (usually adjustable to some degree) will fit your pan.  The new seat will come with fittings/hinges, so you don't need to worry if you damage the existing ones trying to get them off.

There are no end caps the round things are part of the seat attached to it and the screws are rusted in

In that case I'd say the simplest thing is cut the hinges off with a hacksaw.  Be very careful, you really don't want to scratch the top of the pan.  A new seat is cheap, a whole new toilet, less so

Yes but there is nothing to fix it too, there are no holes in the top of the toilet it is just flat ceramic and I am worried if he cuts the hinges off we will not be able to use the toilet if we cannot find a suitable replacement