Cold Weather Payment on UC 29 December 2022 at 2:57AM in Benefits & tax credits 30 replies 1.2K views

born_again

KB32 said:

born_again said:

>Just to clarify I am the only person in my household in receipt of Universal credit and I live with children aged under 5, however the children are not mine but my brother and his wifes, neither of whom receive Universal credit.<

In reality the under 5 does not live with you, you live with their family. I take it that the house is theirs & not yours?

Belongs to parents so neither of us and we share all the bills, unfortunately can't afford to move at the moment. Of course if the parents were claiming UC I would not even ask this question, it's just the info on gov.uk has confused me so I just wanted some clarity as it does not state anywhere about having to be parents/guardians or having them on your claim, although common sense would suggest that surely this would have to be the case.

Thanks you.

Sadly, I'm not sure what needs clearing up, as you can not claim for your brothers children as part of your claim, so why would you think you can for CWP?

calcotti

born_again said:, I'm not sure what needs clearing up, as you can not claim for your brothers children as part of your claim, so why would you think you can for CWP?

I don’t think anything needs clearing up. OP has accepted that he’s not entitled and agrees that that both logical and what he expected. He’s explained that he only asked because the gov.uk information is ambiguous and he wanted to check.

born_again

calcotti said:

born_again said:, I'm not sure what needs clearing up, as you can not claim for your brothers children as part of your claim, so why would you think you can for CWP?

I don’t think anything needs clearing up. OP has accepted that he’s not entitled and agrees that that both logical and what he expected. He’s explained that he only asked because the gov.uk information is ambiguous and he wanted to check.

OP said  > it's just the info on gov.uk has confused me so I just wanted some clarity as it does not state anywhere about having to be parents/guardians or having them on your claim,   although common sense would suggest that surely this would have to be the case.<

I guess they could go through every permutation of claim & say, yes or no. But would run to many pages & as we know people give up very easily with long reads.

To me it is clear, as it will only come into play if you are already claiming for a under 5. But as per this thread others have different views 🤷‍♀️

huckster

This thread like many is about unclear Government policies and help available . People are struggling and need to have clearer information from Government.

During cost of living crisis, Government attempts to target financial help to different people, just makes the whole benefit system very difficult to understand and navigate (for public, Advice Services and DWP staff)

Yes CWP's are not new, but given Government have been all over the media advertising how much support they are providing, you would think they would have thought about making information easier to understand. And OP has highlighted the CWP Gov.uk page as one example of poor communications. And this leads to many unnecessary phone calls and journal messages on UC claims.

@Spoonie_Turtle mentions staff training time and I am sure allocating regular specific training time would be welcomed by DWP staff. Demands on Job Centre Work Coaches and Service Centre Case Managers is increasing all of the time.  DWP are currently having to recruit Work Coaches and Case Managers in many parts of the country, as they keep losing staff. 

HillStreetBlues

born_again said:

OP said  > it's just the info on gov.uk has confused me so I just wanted some clarity as it does not state anywhere about having to be parents/guardians or having them on your claim,   although common sense would suggest that surely this would have to be the case.<

The best rule with how the benefit system works is, if in any doubt, check and double check. Now that's true common sense.

nachtvlinders

Who's claiming child benefit for these children? If the parents' are they shouldn't as they're not living with them but in the OP's shared house. 

sheramber

I think the OP is living in the parent’s house. The parents are not living in the OP’s house.  CB is paid to the person responsible for supporting the child, which , in this car, is the parents,

poppy12345

nachtvlinders said:

Who's claiming child benefit for these children? If the parents' are they shouldn't as they're not living with them but in the OP's shared house. 

Based on this you couldn't have read the whole thread because it clearly states the the OP is living with the brother and his wife.

When commenting on threads it does help to read the whole thread.

FreedomBringsPeace

@calcotti you said "basic things such as how the relevant period for LCWRA element works. There must be many claimants who have been paid incorrectly but don’t know" what did you mean by this please i know someone going through this now. Any insight would help ty

calcotti

FreedomBringsPeace said:

@calcotti you said "basic things such as how the relevant period for LCWRA element works. There must be many claimants who have been paid incorrectly but don’t know" what did you mean by this please i know someone going through this now. Any insight would help ty

When an LCWRA decision is made the LCWRA status should be backdated to the assessment period in which the health condition was reported supported by Fit Notes within 7 days. The LCWRA element is payable in the first UC complete assessment period after the end of the relevant period. The relevant period is a period of three months from when the health condition was reported.

Unfortunately UC often seem to take the relevant period as starting from the date the decision is made which is incorrect.

My comment about many people possibly being paid incorrectly was aimed more generally.

if you need more specific advice please feel free to post details.