Boiler flo

FreeBear

macman said: You need to do something to reduce the heat loss-no way should the house drop as low as 9C overnight unless it's leaking heat.

If the main house is at 11°C, dropping to 9°C is entirely plausible - Heating to 15°C or so isn't going to help much..

I have an unheated utility room - Three external walls, flat roof, and uninsulated concrete floor. Currently down to 6°C in there, and unlikely to rise above 10°C until the weather improves.

InvertedVee

Andy499 said:

Ally_E. said:

Don't let the house get so cold. 13C is cold and the fabric of the house will take a long time to warm back up. Keep it at 15-18C 

I dont understand how anyone can do this?

My house is at 11 degrees during the day, and 9 degrees over night, the heating goes on for 2 hours at night just to warm up a bit and that is costing me £5 in gas a day.

If i had my house at a CONSTANT 15-18 the heating would be on 24/7 - no one (except rich people) can afford to do that.

@Andy499, unless you're away from home during the day, in a reasonably well-insulated home, it's far better to keep the house warm and dry, with a night-time setback temperature just a couple of degrees below day time.

Your £5 of gas is being burned up by a boiler running at high output to raise the house temperature by 2C in 2 hours. I run mine at a very low output (it takes 3-4 hours to raise the temperature by 1C). The advantage is that the low output is much more efficient. I use a setback of 17.5C at night and daytime temps of 19-20C. The home stays very warm and dry. During the cold weather, I spend around £3 a day on gas, including standing charge.

As others have said, maintaining a warm temperature throughout the day can be the most economical way, as well as being far healthier for you and for the building. At 9C, you're risking damp and mould.

Silverbird65

My house is 2 bed end terrace. Has all insulation etc. Has Worcester Bosch greenstar 30kw boiler. I have it on 65° and my room thermostat set at 18°. I have it 3hrs at night and 2 in the morning. I drops to 12-13° overnight. So to reach 18° it is taking longer than  2hrs. As my husband is working from home we have switched it on a 3pm just in 2 rooms and will switch bedroom and toilet on later. Worries about bills of course but as a disabled person needing heat. Just wish I knew how to get the best eco usage without freezing. Would appreciate some sound advice. Called Worcester they just said switch the boiler up. Surely that isn't eco. Any thoughts.?

Andy499

M0KBJ said:

Andy499 said:

Ally_E. said:

Don't let the house get so cold. 13C is cold and the fabric of the house will take a long time to warm back up. Keep it at 15-18C 

I dont understand how anyone can do this?

My house is at 11 degrees during the day, and 9 degrees over night, the heating goes on for 2 hours at night just to warm up a bit and that is costing me £5 in gas a day.

If i had my house at a CONSTANT 15-18 the heating would be on 24/7 - no one (except rich people) can afford to do that.

@Andy499, unless you're away from home during the day, in a reasonably well-insulated home, it's far better to keep the house warm and dry, with a night-time setback temperature just a couple of degrees below day time.

Your £5 of gas is being burned up by a boiler running at high output to raise the house temperature by 2C in 2 hours. I run mine at a very low output (it takes 3-4 hours to raise the temperature by 1C). The advantage is that the low output is much more efficient. I use a setback of 17.5C at night and daytime temps of 19-20C. The home stays very warm and dry. During the cold weather, I spend around £3 a day on gas, including standing charge.

As others have said, maintaining a warm temperature throughout the day can be the most economical way, as well as being far healthier for you and for the building. At 9C, you're risking damp and mould.

You must live in a well insulated home. My house is not well insulated and hasnt got great windows.

I have the same boiler as you, and I want to be spending £3 a day on gas! Any chance we can message and you can help me? Im freezing all day in 11 degree room just to have a bit of warmth at night for an hour or two.

Aylesbury_Duck

Andy499 said:

M0KBJ said:

Andy499 said:

Ally_E. said:

Don't let the house get so cold. 13C is cold and the fabric of the house will take a long time to warm back up. Keep it at 15-18C 

I dont understand how anyone can do this?

My house is at 11 degrees during the day, and 9 degrees over night, the heating goes on for 2 hours at night just to warm up a bit and that is costing me £5 in gas a day.

If i had my house at a CONSTANT 15-18 the heating would be on 24/7 - no one (except rich people) can afford to do that.

@Andy499, unless you're away from home during the day, in a reasonably well-insulated home, it's far better to keep the house warm and dry, with a night-time setback temperature just a couple of degrees below day time.

Your £5 of gas is being burned up by a boiler running at high output to raise the house temperature by 2C in 2 hours. I run mine at a very low output (it takes 3-4 hours to raise the temperature by 1C). The advantage is that the low output is much more efficient. I use a setback of 17.5C at night and daytime temps of 19-20C. The home stays very warm and dry. During the cold weather, I spend around £3 a day on gas, including standing charge.

As others have said, maintaining a warm temperature throughout the day can be the most economical way, as well as being far healthier for you and for the building. At 9C, you're risking damp and mould.

You must live in a well insulated home. My house is not well insulated and hasnt got great windows.

I have the same boiler as you, and I want to be spending £3 a day on gas! Any chance we can message and you can help me? Im freezing all day in 11 degree room just to have a bit of warmth at night for an hour or two.

I noted on your other thread that your bills are becoming unaffordable.  Are you in a house that is simply beyond your financial means?  It's a blunt question, but I suspect there will be a lot of people currently re-assessing the affordability of their current homes.  Whether it's too big, too poorly insulated, or both, the problem isn't going to go away.  I suspect energy bills of this magnitude are going to be the norm for the foreseeable future, possibly for years to come.  You've either got to find another source of income, make economies elsewhere, or find the up-front sums to properly insulate the house in the hope it pays back.

Andy499

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Andy499 said:

M0KBJ said:

Andy499 said:

Ally_E. said:

Don't let the house get so cold. 13C is cold and the fabric of the house will take a long time to warm back up. Keep it at 15-18C 

I dont understand how anyone can do this?

My house is at 11 degrees during the day, and 9 degrees over night, the heating goes on for 2 hours at night just to warm up a bit and that is costing me £5 in gas a day.

If i had my house at a CONSTANT 15-18 the heating would be on 24/7 - no one (except rich people) can afford to do that.

@Andy499, unless you're away from home during the day, in a reasonably well-insulated home, it's far better to keep the house warm and dry, with a night-time setback temperature just a couple of degrees below day time.

Your £5 of gas is being burned up by a boiler running at high output to raise the house temperature by 2C in 2 hours. I run mine at a very low output (it takes 3-4 hours to raise the temperature by 1C). The advantage is that the low output is much more efficient. I use a setback of 17.5C at night and daytime temps of 19-20C. The home stays very warm and dry. During the cold weather, I spend around £3 a day on gas, including standing charge.

As others have said, maintaining a warm temperature throughout the day can be the most economical way, as well as being far healthier for you and for the building. At 9C, you're risking damp and mould.

You must live in a well insulated home. My house is not well insulated and hasnt got great windows.

I have the same boiler as you, and I want to be spending £3 a day on gas! Any chance we can message and you can help me? Im freezing all day in 11 degree room just to have a bit of warmth at night for an hour or two.

I noted on your other thread that your bills are becoming unaffordable.  Are you in a house that is simply beyond your financial means?  It's a blunt question, but I suspect there will be a lot of people currently re-assessing the affordability of their current homes.  Whether it's too big, too poorly insulated, or both, the problem isn't going to go away.  I suspect energy bills of this magnitude are going to be the norm for the foreseeable future, possibly for years to come.  You've either got to find another source of income, make economies elsewhere, or find the up-front sums to properly insulate the house in the hope it pays back.

I bought some insulation yesterday. Im going to put it in the loft tomorrow on top of the current stuff which isnt very thick, also fill some gaps. I broke the bank buying it but I must do something

Silverbird65

Good idea we did the same. The best we could couldn't get right into corners but topped up. The loft is freezing so it must insulated. Hope yours helps.

Aylesbury_Duck

Andy499 said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Andy499 said:

M0KBJ said:

Andy499 said:

Ally_E. said:

Don't let the house get so cold. 13C is cold and the fabric of the house will take a long time to warm back up. Keep it at 15-18C 

I dont understand how anyone can do this?

My house is at 11 degrees during the day, and 9 degrees over night, the heating goes on for 2 hours at night just to warm up a bit and that is costing me £5 in gas a day.

If i had my house at a CONSTANT 15-18 the heating would be on 24/7 - no one (except rich people) can afford to do that.

@Andy499, unless you're away from home during the day, in a reasonably well-insulated home, it's far better to keep the house warm and dry, with a night-time setback temperature just a couple of degrees below day time.

Your £5 of gas is being burned up by a boiler running at high output to raise the house temperature by 2C in 2 hours. I run mine at a very low output (it takes 3-4 hours to raise the temperature by 1C). The advantage is that the low output is much more efficient. I use a setback of 17.5C at night and daytime temps of 19-20C. The home stays very warm and dry. During the cold weather, I spend around £3 a day on gas, including standing charge.

As others have said, maintaining a warm temperature throughout the day can be the most economical way, as well as being far healthier for you and for the building. At 9C, you're risking damp and mould.

You must live in a well insulated home. My house is not well insulated and hasnt got great windows.

I have the same boiler as you, and I want to be spending £3 a day on gas! Any chance we can message and you can help me? Im freezing all day in 11 degree room just to have a bit of warmth at night for an hour or two.

I noted on your other thread that your bills are becoming unaffordable.  Are you in a house that is simply beyond your financial means?  It's a blunt question, but I suspect there will be a lot of people currently re-assessing the affordability of their current homes.  Whether it's too big, too poorly insulated, or both, the problem isn't going to go away.  I suspect energy bills of this magnitude are going to be the norm for the foreseeable future, possibly for years to come.  You've either got to find another source of income, make economies elsewhere, or find the up-front sums to properly insulate the house in the hope it pays back.

I bought some insulation yesterday. Im going to put it in the loft tomorrow on top of the current stuff which isnt very thick, also fill some gaps. I broke the bank buying it but I must do something

It's a good start, probably one of the best things you can do immediately to improve insulation.

Going back to my point, you do need to do some serious sums and see if the house is affordable in the long term.  We're only at the start of winter and whilst this week's cold snap might be exceptional, it might not be.  There's little point shivering in a cold house you can't afford to heat for several months a year if downsizing or moving to a more efficient house is going to make life physically and financially more comfortable.

Andy499

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Andy499 said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Andy499 said:

M0KBJ said:

Andy499 said:

Ally_E. said:

Don't let the house get so cold. 13C is cold and the fabric of the house will take a long time to warm back up. Keep it at 15-18C 

I dont understand how anyone can do this?

My house is at 11 degrees during the day, and 9 degrees over night, the heating goes on for 2 hours at night just to warm up a bit and that is costing me £5 in gas a day.

If i had my house at a CONSTANT 15-18 the heating would be on 24/7 - no one (except rich people) can afford to do that.

@Andy499, unless you're away from home during the day, in a reasonably well-insulated home, it's far better to keep the house warm and dry, with a night-time setback temperature just a couple of degrees below day time.

Your £5 of gas is being burned up by a boiler running at high output to raise the house temperature by 2C in 2 hours. I run mine at a very low output (it takes 3-4 hours to raise the temperature by 1C). The advantage is that the low output is much more efficient. I use a setback of 17.5C at night and daytime temps of 19-20C. The home stays very warm and dry. During the cold weather, I spend around £3 a day on gas, including standing charge.

As others have said, maintaining a warm temperature throughout the day can be the most economical way, as well as being far healthier for you and for the building. At 9C, you're risking damp and mould.

You must live in a well insulated home. My house is not well insulated and hasnt got great windows.

I have the same boiler as you, and I want to be spending £3 a day on gas! Any chance we can message and you can help me? Im freezing all day in 11 degree room just to have a bit of warmth at night for an hour or two.

I noted on your other thread that your bills are becoming unaffordable.  Are you in a house that is simply beyond your financial means?  It's a blunt question, but I suspect there will be a lot of people currently re-assessing the affordability of their current homes.  Whether it's too big, too poorly insulated, or both, the problem isn't going to go away.  I suspect energy bills of this magnitude are going to be the norm for the foreseeable future, possibly for years to come.  You've either got to find another source of income, make economies elsewhere, or find the up-front sums to properly insulate the house in the hope it pays back.

I bought some insulation yesterday. Im going to put it in the loft tomorrow on top of the current stuff which isnt very thick, also fill some gaps. I broke the bank buying it but I must do something

It's a good start, probably one of the best things you can do immediately to improve insulation.

Going back to my point, you do need to do some serious sums and see if the house is affordable in the long term.  We're only at the start of winter and whilst this week's cold snap might be exceptional, it might not be.  There's little point shivering in a cold house you can't afford to heat for several months a year if downsizing or moving to a more efficient house is going to make life physically and financially more comfortable.

I do understand your point, but im not in a position to sell up, only moved here 2 years ago, id cost so much.

I need to make the house more efficienct and earn more money.

Im at the start of a career path that has very high earning potential, but I only started 1 year ago, and I dont expect to be a high earner any time soon.

Silverbird65

Just do the best you can for your family and circumstances. I hope you find the best path for your family.