Octopus Agile vs Flexible?

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waqasahmed said:

Alnat1 said:

Agile works well for people who can time shift their main usage to lower cost slots. The peak 4pm-7.30pm slots are always going to be the most expensive so if you tend to use a lot early evenings, it's maybe not for you.

I have solar and a battery. If the sun isn't shining but the wind is blowing I can often fill the battery overnight at cheap rates and use the electric the next day. I'm also happy to run washer/dryer/dishwasher overnight when it's cheaper.

It's a tariff you have to be on top of every day, checking rates and adjusting usage if you want to make the most of it. Again, that sort of thing isn't for everyone, for some of us it's a hobby 

I've got Octopus agile for export only. I'll eventually swap over to Octopus Go for imports too 

You cannot be on Octopus Go and Agile Export at the same time. If you are on Go, Octopus will pay a reduced SEG of 4.1p/kWh. 

‘ Currently, you can't be on both Outgoing Octopus AND Octopus Go, our electricity consumption tariff designed for electric vehicle drivers. We've made this decision because both are such incredibly good value tariffs that it would be unsustainable for us as a business – the equivalent of letting people buying goods in a shop using a "3 for 2" offer and then bringing them back for a full price refund! The combination of Outgoing and Agile works really well and offers potential for great savings. You can choose to be on Octopus Go and join our new SEG tariff for Outgoing, offering 4.1p / kWh for your export – just get in touch with our team to take this option.’ Source Octopus

70sbudgie

Flexible is what Octopus call their SVT. It comes in either single or dual (E7) rates. 

Although you can't have Go and outgoing Agile, you can have E7 and outgoing Agile. 

As explained above, you can have incoming and outgoing Agile, but it might not work if you can't flex your usage.

I have PV panels and an EV. But I also have young children that limit my ability to avoid peak demand without a battery. So incoming Agile is not for me even if my E-W PV allows me to benefit from outgoing Agile in the summer months. 

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[Deleted User] said:

waqasahmed said:

Alnat1 said:

Agile works well for people who can time shift their main usage to lower cost slots. The peak 4pm-7.30pm slots are always going to be the most expensive so if you tend to use a lot early evenings, it's maybe not for you.

I have solar and a battery. If the sun isn't shining but the wind is blowing I can often fill the battery overnight at cheap rates and use the electric the next day. I'm also happy to run washer/dryer/dishwasher overnight when it's cheaper.

It's a tariff you have to be on top of every day, checking rates and adjusting usage if you want to make the most of it. Again, that sort of thing isn't for everyone, for some of us it's a hobby 

I've got Octopus agile for export only. I'll eventually swap over to Octopus Go for imports too 

You cannot be on Octopus Go and Agile Export at the same time. If you are on Go, Octopus will pay a reduced SEG of 4.1p/kWh. 

‘ Currently, you can't be on both Outgoing Octopus AND Octopus Go, our electricity consumption tariff designed for electric vehicle drivers. We've made this decision because both are such incredibly good value tariffs that it would be unsustainable for us as a business – the equivalent of letting people buying goods in a shop using a "3 for 2" offer and then bringing them back for a full price refund! The combination of Outgoing and Agile works really well and offers potential for great savings. You can choose to be on Octopus Go and join our new SEG tariff for Outgoing, offering 4.1p / kWh for your export – just get in touch with our team to take this option.’ Source Octopus

Shame. What can you have if you're on Octopus Go, for exports? Other than the 4.1p?

anon_ymous

Alnat1 said:

Agile works well for people who can time shift their main usage to lower cost slots. The peak 4pm-7.30pm slots are always going to be the most expensive so if you tend to use a lot early evenings, it's maybe not for you.

I have solar and a battery. If the sun isn't shining but the wind is blowing I can often fill the battery overnight at cheap rates and use the electric the next day. I'm also happy to run washer/dryer/dishwasher overnight when it's cheaper.

It's a tariff you have to be on top of every day, checking rates and adjusting usage if you want to make the most of it. Again, that sort of thing isn't for everyone, for some of us it's a hobby 

Surely Go is the better option, especially for the person who's got an EV? 

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waqasahmed said:

[Deleted User] said:

waqasahmed said:

Alnat1 said:

Agile works well for people who can time shift their main usage to lower cost slots. The peak 4pm-7.30pm slots are always going to be the most expensive so if you tend to use a lot early evenings, it's maybe not for you.

I have solar and a battery. If the sun isn't shining but the wind is blowing I can often fill the battery overnight at cheap rates and use the electric the next day. I'm also happy to run washer/dryer/dishwasher overnight when it's cheaper.

It's a tariff you have to be on top of every day, checking rates and adjusting usage if you want to make the most of it. Again, that sort of thing isn't for everyone, for some of us it's a hobby 

I've got Octopus agile for export only. I'll eventually swap over to Octopus Go for imports too 

You cannot be on Octopus Go and Agile Export at the same time. If you are on Go, Octopus will pay a reduced SEG of 4.1p/kWh. 

‘ Currently, you can't be on both Outgoing Octopus AND Octopus Go, our electricity consumption tariff designed for electric vehicle drivers. We've made this decision because both are such incredibly good value tariffs that it would be unsustainable for us as a business – the equivalent of letting people buying goods in a shop using a "3 for 2" offer and then bringing them back for a full price refund! The combination of Outgoing and Agile works really well and offers potential for great savings. You can choose to be on Octopus Go and join our new SEG tariff for Outgoing, offering 4.1p / kWh for your export – just get in touch with our team to take this option.’ Source Octopus

Shame. What can you have if you're on Octopus Go, for exports? Other than the 4.1p?

You have to do your own sums. It depends on how much you expect to export, and how often you charge your EV. Charging every night favours Octopus Go or Octopus Intelligent. Charging once a week might well bring E7 into the equation if exports and Agile Outgoing prices are high.

Alnat1

Go is only for those with an EV, I don't even drive!

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Alnat1 said:

Go is only for those with an EV, I don't even drive!

That's quite impressive for someone who lives in Barnsley 

Though realistically, I can't see how they'd tell if you drive or not if you've got batteries. Certainly not what they intend ofc

How come you're on Octopus agile for imports btw? I too have moved to having the higher energy use stuff overnight