PCN advice

Adviceseeker22

Hi there.

Sorry to raise this topic again, but would appreciate advice….

The keeper of a vehicle has received a PCN for ‘driver – observed leaving site’. The image on the initial PCN simply shows someone getting out of a car, it does not evidence that person leaving site. Plus, a time is stated but there is no period of parking provided.

Initially the PCN was ignored but then contested (late) and now debt recovery letters are arriving, with costs of course going up….

Should the keeper continue to contest due to the initial notice failing to provide the information required by POFA or cut their losses and settle?

Coupon-mad

You can view all the photos by logging into the PPC's website, so do that first.

Should the keeper continue to contest due to the initial notice failing to provide the information required by POFA or cut their losses and settle?

Neither.

The 4th post of the NEWBIES thread is clear about ignoring DRA demands completely.

Which PPC?

Adviceseeker22

MSE is clear that you shouldn't ignore? UKCPS. th ekeeper can continue to ignore and see if it goes to court, but is there a basis for contesting the fine?

KeithP

Adviceseeker22 said:

MSE is clear that you shouldn't ignore?

Sorry, I don't understand the question.

In fact, if it wasn't for the question mark, I wouldn't have recognised it as a question.   

Coupon-mad

It's not a fine.

There is always a defence.

We have a Template Defence if you ever need it.

UKCPS are not litigious these days.  There won't be a claim.

Not sure if you've been reading the MSE article on how to deal with parking tickets, if so, stop. It isn't great, as you can see from the posts on the Announcement thread by MSE_JC about the MSE 'guide'.  Forget that guide.

Stick with this forum instead.  We know what we are doing.

Adviceseeker22

 Coupon-mad said:

It's not a fine.

There is always a defence.

We have a Template Defence if you ever need it.

UKCPS are not litigious these days.  There won't be a claim.

Not sure if you've been reading the MSE article on how to deal with parking tickets, if so, stop. It isn't great, as you can see from the posts on the Announcement thread by MSE_JC about the MSE 'guide'.  Forget that guide.

Stick with this forum instead.  We know what we are doing.

Thanks, so the keeper should ignore the debt recovery letter? it would still be good to know whether the initial question, about the information provided on the original notice failing to meet POFA requirements

Coupon-mad

Doesn't help if the person photographed was the keeper/driver, so don't waste your time on POFA loopholes if it's the case that in court (which won't happen) it would be obvious that the Defendant is that person in their photos.

You already know the answer to your question "...so the keeper should ignore the debt recovery letter?" if you've even had a cursory glance at the 4th post in the NEWBIES thread.

It's there to rescue us from having to repeat ourselves again and again on hundreds of threads about laughable debt demands.  We even had a UKCPS Group thread last year to stop new threads, because literally nothing will happen.

fisherjim

You are at debt recovery stage you have missed the boat to"contest" it and they will ignore you anyway, there's no profit in cancelling parking invoices.

Paying a debt collector is just throwing money down the drain why would you pay a scammer that can't do diddly squat anyway?

The leaving site scam is a little additional try on some PPC's have made up to get the maximum returns they can, very very few carry their threats anywhere with that one since "the toothbrush case" (google it it's funny).

Aldo22

Hi, 

Need some advice about this please.

I received a PCN from a company call SMART Parking ltd. It was for entering an outside car parking area apparently on private land, for just 13 minuets, and then leaving. The problem was for some reason I couldnt connect to their payment app with my phone. I tried  but just could connect, so then I left. I never got out of the car. Four weeks later I received a PCN. I wrote straight back to them and explained the circumstances about my connection problem, and that I never got out of my car. But they wrote back to me and said that having considered my appeal they have decided to uphold the PCN, and asking for £100
They are advising me that if I want to appeal I can go through the POPLA appeal process. But from what I'm reading this process is biased towards the car parking company. Shall I ignor this and go to court ?

Le_Kirk

Aldo22 said:

Hi, 
Need some advice about this please.

My advice is to start a new thread/discussion of your own as it can become confusing trying to answer two different posters on one thread.

DE_612183

fisherjim said:

You are at debt recovery stage you have missed the boat to"contest" it and they will ignore you anyway, there's no profit in cancelling parking invoices.

Paying a debt collector is just throwing money down the drain why would you pay a scammer that can't do diddly squat anyway?

The leaving site scam is a little additional try on some PPC's have made up to get the maximum returns they can, very very few carry their threats anywhere with that one since "the toothbrush case" (google it it's funny).

when i google the toothbrush case I get loads of adverts for plastic cases on amazon...