Parking Ticket - Driver Left the site

GreenStone

Thanks Grizebeck for your continued support. I understand your logic that other points are not needed in this case but please is there any harm in including the point 2,3 and 4 on page 2. I agree to completely forget the point 5. Hope you will not mind asking me this question. Thanks :-)

patient_dream

GreenStone said:

Thanks patient_dream, hope my POPLA appeal will be successful. I understand that every assessor is different and have their own mind. 

Yes we hope so but not a problem if not

And that's the BIG problem with POPLA, THEY SHOULD BE OF ONE MIND on the facts.
Thank goodness they will be replaced by a government independent appeals service

Fruitcake

There is no harm in including other points, known as the kitchen sink approach. You only have to win on one point. They have to win on every point. The more points you have, the more points they have to rebut.
Having seen PoPLA assessors, and senior assessors, who can't count to 14, I would never trust a one or two point appeal, no matter how strong they might be.

GreenStone

Thanks Fruitcake. You spoke my mind, that's why I would like to include as many suitable points. Fruitcake, please which points on page 2 you consider to be worth include in the appeal. Thanks

Coupon-mad

Chuck them all in! You will win on point 1.

KeithP

GreenStone said:

I will amend the #1 to
1. The driver or keeper never left the site, the operator UKPC is put to strict proof that the driver or keeper left the site. 

No, that isn't right.

If there is any 'rule' about anyone leaving the site, it will be about the driver.

Just deny that the driver left the site.

What the keeper did or did not do on the day - whether he was even there or not - doesn't matter.

Grizebeck

If its like UKCPS there will be no pics so its game over on that point alone

GreenStone

Many thanks for your much appreciated help. I will submit this appeal (PDF at external website)if there are no other correction required, kindly review it if possible. Thanks

fisherjim

Grizebeck said:

If its like UKCPS there will be no pics so its game over on that point alone

It's just daft isn't it, I wonder what would a judge say:

"So as the parking management company you apply an unsigned rule that the driver cannot leave site but instead of your employee stopping him from doing just that you took a photo of an alleged driver and invoiced him for it!"

patient_dream

fisherjim said:

Grizebeck said:

If its like UKCPS there will be no pics so its game over on that point alone

It's just daft isn't it, I wonder what would a judge say:

"So as the parking management company you apply an unsigned rule that the driver cannot leave site but instead of your employee stopping him from doing just that you took a photo of an alleged driver and invoiced him for it!"

The UKPC foot soldier goons are not intelligent. Like all goons, they no doubt take instructions from goon HQ at UKPC

The last UKPC goon I saw was taking a picture of a van, he got back in his rusty old ford and read his newspaper. ... so much for managing a car park park ?  

And we all remember the doctored pictures, was it because goon HQ told him what to do or that he was paid commission ?

And, I wonder if they are stupid enough to go to court with this one, which legal will they mug this time ?