Semi detached Kitchen/Diner remodel

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  • Doozergirl
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    So it's exactly the same, virtually, and you can see what they've done? 

    Swapping the kitchen over would be helpful from a kitchen design point of view- is that a bay window or doors off the kitchen?    Either way, it would cause less problems if it were a dining area .


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  • So it's exactly the same, virtually, and you can see what they've done? 

    Swapping the kitchen over would be helpful from a kitchen design point of view- is that a bay window or doors off the kitchen?    Either way, it would cause less problems if it were a dining area .


    So it's exactly the same, virtually, and you can see what they've done? 

    Swapping the kitchen over would be helpful from a kitchen design point of view- is that a bay window or doors off the kitchen?    Either way, it would cause less problems if it were a dining area .


    Yeh it’s very very similar! Thanks for that,its exactly the kind of thing I was after 👍

    Off the kitchen is a little window area which currently houses the sink,it’s more hassle than it’s worth and as part of the extension plans it was going to be removed and blocked across straight so I may continue with that idea even without the extension and have a window on back wall looking into garden instead 

    The idea of the kitchen in the dining room is one I have considered I guess the thing to consider is that all the waste/water supplies would need extending to the dining room which may or may not be easy/possible 
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 3 December 2022 at 12:31PM
    Dan-1987 said:
    So it's exactly the same, virtually, and you can see what they've done? 

    Swapping the kitchen over would be helpful from a kitchen design point of view- is that a bay window or doors off the kitchen?    Either way, it would cause less problems if it were a dining area .


    So it's exactly the same, virtually, and you can see what they've done? 

    Swapping the kitchen over would be helpful from a kitchen design point of view- is that a bay window or doors off the kitchen?    Either way, it would cause less problems if it were a dining area .


    Yeh it’s very very similar! Thanks for that,its exactly the kind of thing I was after 👍

    Off the kitchen is a little window area which currently houses the sink,it’s more hassle than it’s worth and as part of the extension plans it was going to be removed and blocked across straight so I may continue with that idea even without the extension and have a window on back wall looking into garden instead 

    The idea of the kitchen in the dining room is one I have considered I guess the thing to consider is that all the waste/water supplies would need extending to the dining room which may or may not be easy/possible 
    Shouldn't be too hard because those houses generally have suspended floors.   It's not as hard as moving a sink waste as it is to move a 4 inch waste pipe.  

    The window area might make a nice area for a piece of furniture to hold dining items, or even a window seat used in conjunction with the dining table. 

    Would seem shame to spend money blocking up a potentially useful space.  

    You could still put in another window.  
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  • ka7e
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    Moving the sink doesn't just involve moving internal pipework, though. We would have had to excavated under a patio, to join to the drains which are about 4 metres away in the garden. Also, we left a small section of the kitchen wall to maintain structural integrity. Surveyor said the wall itself wasn't load-bearing, but with the conjunction of walls where hall/living room/kitchen met, he'd still have asked for an RSJ and uprights if we'd taken the whole lot out. The final design depends on the lifestyle of the occupants. We find the kitchen/diner comfortable and easy to heat and rarely use the front room.
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  • Dan-1987
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    ka7e said:
    Moving the sink doesn't just involve moving internal pipework, though. We would have had to excavated under a patio, to join to the drains which are about 4 metres away in the garden. Also, we left a small section of the kitchen wall to maintain structural integrity. Surveyor said the wall itself wasn't load-bearing, but with the conjunction of walls where hall/living room/kitchen met, he'd still have asked for an RSJ and uprights if we'd taken the whole lot out. The final design depends on the lifestyle of the occupants. We find the kitchen/diner comfortable and easy to heat and rarely use the front room.
    That is true,I have done a bit of drainage so it’s something I’m pretty comfortable with but as you say it’s not always easy to move large runs of pipe due to not being able to achieve the correct fall etc without lots of excavating 

    In honesty the current kitchen isn’t large enough to be switched into use as a dining room so the combined dining/kitchen space would have to integrate the two

    I am working on a simple adaption to the original floor plan picture above (in between work)  to show the initial thoughts I had regards kitchen remodel,I will post it shortly and see what people think

    Im pretty handy and do have some renovation/diy experience so I'm comfortable with the work I just lack the vision/imagination sometimes so all the input is very helpful,thanks everyone 
  • Dan-1987
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    Please excuse the quality of the drawing, I’ve just used a simple sketch app on my iPhone and don’t have a steady hand! But hoping you get the idea,this includes the use of the front room door instead of the dining room doorway which is currently used,my idea being that the space taken from the hallway could potentially be used as a small cloakroom toilet 

    The current kitchen area/wall would be opened up to provide a slightly larger kitchen-I’d gain another metre ish (but lose the sink area) and would go full height units on the side nearest stairs which would help with current oven electric points etc,I’d then have the sink on the back wall and fit a window in that wall 

    I realise it’s not a huge gain kitchen wise but I’m wary of budget and it would work with current drainage/electric setup,I think we’d also be keen to keep a large enough table for family meals which we have fairly regular 
  • Dan-1987
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    This is the idea I had 
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 3 December 2022 at 4:57PM
    Where does your furniture go in that lounge now that it needs to be a corridor? 

    The physical corridor is shorter but the route you need to keep free is longer.  


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  • Dan-1987
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    Where does your furniture go in that lounge now that it needs to be a corridor? 

    The physical corridor is shorter but the route you need to keep free is longer.  


    Sorry I don’t think I get what you mean? The wall backing onto the hallway is currently where the sofa is with a chair next to it,the chair is going anyway so I’ll just move the sofa up,not sure if it shows well on the drawing but the dining room and lounge is nearly fully opened up as one 
  • silvercar
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    Another option would be to lose the wall between the lounge and the hall and have the front door (porch maybe) open straight in to the lounge. 
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