LL stating access will be given to contractor despite permission being denied

subjecttocontract

......and it's important to recognise that tenants are not entitled, by virtue of paying rent, to expect any better treatment than an owner occupier might expect in the same situation.

Flugelhorn

subjecttocontract said:

......and it's important to recognise that tenants are not entitled, by virtue of paying rent, to expect any better treatment than an owner occupier might expect in the same situation.

absolutely - getting work done as an owner-occupier can mean having to juggle dayes / times etc to fit - if I was the OP I would just make myself available on the Saturday to get the work done

diystarter7

Flugelhorn said:

subjecttocontract said:

......and it's important to recognise that tenants are not entitled, by virtue of paying rent, to expect any better treatment than an owner occupier might expect in the same situation.

absolutely - getting work done as an owner-occupier can mean having to juggle dayes / times etc to fit - if I was the OP I would just make myself available on the Saturday to get the work done

Excellent post/s

I recall the times we worked the boiler went on the blink and those days you got am/pm vist meant taing the day off using your hols. The we had problems with DG, about ten vists to sort out the window and door, time off. The washing machine couple of times went broke 2 visits per breakdown waiting for parts

We have T's they are really nice but a couple of years ago we had a leak in the orangery, paid thousands for it a few years before still under warranty - drips down the side of the wall when it rained in high winds - we offered to be there ourselves, the EA or give us access - the chap complained and moaned and I had to remind it we were esnuring they lived in a lovely property had bent over backwards to keep it A! and they needed to be there or lalow us to let them in - the guy apologised said he was stressed out and they have been model T's and actually told us that they'd never met LL's like us that as "nice,caring."

Sadly what some T's forget is that owner-occupiers's cant click their fingers and get a bathroom in, it takes a lot of research/luck and even then the contract you get is not worth the paper its written on.

If we did not already own properties to rent, trust me in this day and age I would not become one or recommend it to anyone as everything seems to favour the T.  

A few months back we cmataced a coupl of bathroom fitters through a well know builders' site. Out of the three, one did not bother turning up, the others gave a labour figure of almost 20k  labour for a bathroom the  communal bathroom is only about

10 fee by 6 foot. The tiles/etc were going to be ours ie all parts etc - half tiles, tiled floor, w/c and basin to go in same place and in place of bath a shower and a small cupobard. Another builders quote was more reasonable 8k and the third builder visited but never sent a quote. We tried to get a date, approx date from the 8k labout guy, he said he stopped doing larger jobs as more money in smaller jobs.


OP, please work with the LL as they don't have builders waiting for you 24/7.  Get it over and done with and get on with your life and remove the stress

Good luck

MobileSaver

macman said:

Sounds as if the contractor is billing on an hourly rate and so stringing the job out intentionally.

Norman_Castle said:

Presumably prioritsing other, better paid work. Has the landlady pushed them for a low price which they've agreed on the understanding they'll do this between other jobs? Very unfair of the landlady as they're not living like this.

Or the situation could be the same as around my way... all local tradesmen are already fully booked up Monday to Friday until well into next year and I'm very grateful to one of mine who is turning up tomorrow Saturday to do some jobs for me.

At the end of the day if the OP refuses access at the weekend then they can't complain if the landlady/tradesman isn't able to come back until next year now and under the circumstances the council will almost certainly side with the LL and extend any deadline. If I was the OP I'd do everything in my power to make it feasible for the contractors to turn up at the weekend.

Boat_to_Bolivia

macman said:

If you don't have access to a fully functioning bath or shower then the LL should be rehousing you for the duration of the work, at their expense. If the dog is permitted under your AST, then they need to rehouse the dog too...
I don't know how much else of the property is affected, but it looks like the work is widespread.
Sounds as if the contractor is billing on an hourly rate and so stringing the job out intentionally.

Those were my thoughts exactly re rehousing whilst the work was done!

diystarter7

Boat_to_Bolivia said:

macman said:

If you don't have access to a fully functioning bath or shower then the LL should be rehousing you for the duration of the work, at their expense. If the dog is permitted under your AST, then they need to rehouse the dog too...
I don't know how much else of the property is affected, but it looks like the work is widespread.
Sounds as if the contractor is billing on an hourly rate and so stringing the job out intentionally.

Those were my thoughts exactly re rehousing whilst the work was done!

How often are hard-pressed owner occupiers "rehoused" when workes like replacing a bathroom are done. For the same reason how many council and HA T's are rehoused on a bathroom refurb?

Gycraig

Honestly it’s an absolute nightmare getting trades people at the moment, I’d bite there hands off and make it work tbh or you could be stuck as you are for a long time 

flower77g

You could change the locks and deny access on Saturday, but you'll just open a new can of worms. Contractor might not come back for... who knows how long and LL will as suggested earlier complain about you to council. He'll have to in order to protect himself from missing the deadline they've set him.

The sad reality is that, where the tenant has only an assured shorthold tenancy, many LL's would also be sending notice to evict.     

Norman_Castle

diystarter7 said:

Boat_to_Bolivia said:

macman said:

If you don't have access to a fully functioning bath or shower then the LL should be rehousing you for the duration of the work, at their expense. If the dog is permitted under your AST, then they need to rehouse the dog too...
I don't know how much else of the property is affected, but it looks like the work is widespread.
Sounds as if the contractor is billing on an hourly rate and so stringing the job out intentionally.

Those were my thoughts exactly re rehousing whilst the work was done!

  how many council and HA Tenants are rehoused on a bathroom refurb?

Its very unlikely responsible landlords would allow piecemeal repairs for a bathroom refurb or repairs as needed by the op. I suspect the problem here isn't really the Saturday access but the ongoing indifference to completing the work. Its boring being at home while work is being done but it is literally a waste of time accommodating contractors who don't understand or care that they are wasting your days by working this way.

"approx 10 visits from the contracting company, based 45 minutes away, have been given access without question.  During which time they have attended the property for mostly a few hours at a time, during which other works other than the main work they were here to undertake could have been done, this hasn't been the case.  On some days whilst here they've spent more time out getting supplies and then going for a 1hr 45 min lunch than they have done doing work."

pinkshoes

You have quite rightly complained to the council about the property issues, and the LL will have a deadline to sort them out by.

Given how difficult it can be to find contractors, the LL is no doubt doing their best to sort it out, so refusing to allow the contractor to come round could potentially be making life difficult for yourself.

The LL will let the council know they tried to sort the issues but you refused entry.

Can you not take the dog with you or get someone else to have it for a few hours?