How to ask for pay rise in private cleaning?

diystarter7

kinger101 said:

diystarter7 said:

littleboo said:

I'm not sure of the logic that a cat of a dog would increase the rate. That might increase the hours required, or reduce what can be accomplished in the same time. Surely an hours cleaning is an hours cleaning

Hi

Hopefully, a cleaner could explain if they were offered two hours a week in one property with no pets and another that had pets, if the cleaner expected a higher rate. Most, would agree that a slightly higher rate would be required for a couple of hours.

Thanks

Er no.  A cleaner might explain that cleaning might take longer if the house had pets, so two and a half hours might be needed rather than two.  It would therefore be better to pay for the longer period of cleaning to obtain the desired result. 

Hi

Er, yes and I've met people that have told me that. Sure people could say they wanted more hours for a really messy house but just as easily and it is a fact that some will ask more per hour if the client has a pet/s as often many self-employed cleaners that may just do the one or two houses s need to look after their kids, take them to school, see the elderly parents etc. So, er it does happen and your point is no more valid than mine. 

Perhaps I could post a link confirm what I've seen and heard but won't as it can just as easily be countered because as I said some
do as per my post

Thanks

gwynlas

OP For your own sake I hope that you are registered as self employed and claiming tax allowance your employer might believe that £12 per hour is fair as cash in hand. Regardless of this I beleive domestic cleaners in the south generally charge at least £15 .agencies can also charge VAT on top of this

[Deleted User]

Thank you everyone for your responses, I got my pay rise of £15 starting this month. 

Ath_Wat

diystarter7 said:

kinger101 said:

diystarter7 said:

littleboo said:

I'm not sure of the logic that a cat of a dog would increase the rate. That might increase the hours required, or reduce what can be accomplished in the same time. Surely an hours cleaning is an hours cleaning

Hi

Hopefully, a cleaner could explain if they were offered two hours a week in one property with no pets and another that had pets, if the cleaner expected a higher rate. Most, would agree that a slightly higher rate would be required for a couple of hours.

Thanks

Er no.  A cleaner might explain that cleaning might take longer if the house had pets, so two and a half hours might be needed rather than two.  It would therefore be better to pay for the longer period of cleaning to obtain the desired result. 

Hi

Er, yes and I've met people that have told me that. Sure people could say they wanted more hours for a really messy house but just as easily and it is a fact that some will ask more per hour if the client has a pet/s as often many self-employed cleaners that may just do the one or two houses s need to look after their kids, take them to school, see the elderly parents etc. So, er it does happen and your point is no more valid than mine. 

Perhaps I could post a link confirm what I've seen and heard but won't as it can just as easily be countered because as I said some
do as per my post

Thanks

Whether some do or not, surely you can see it is illogical.  It would be like asking a higher hourly rate because the house was bigger and therefore it took longer to clean.  Do you think if you pay a higher hourly rate they just work twice as fast?

diystarter7

[Deleted User] said:

Thank you everyone for your responses, I got my pay rise of £15 starting this month. 

Hi
Many thanks for the update.
I'm sincerely please for you.
Good news all around and you get to stay at a place that you like
Clearly, you have built up trust with this employer.
Take care

silvercar

I understand why houses with pets attract higher payments. As well as taking longer it is harder work, more elbow grease, to make a place look spick and span when dog hairs are all over the floor and sofas, the floors can be dirtier etc. It is the same reason that end of building work cleans attract higher prices.

General_Grant

Ath_Wat said:

diystarter7 said:

kinger101 said:

diystarter7 said:

littleboo said:

I'm not sure of the logic that a cat of a dog would increase the rate. That might increase the hours required, or reduce what can be accomplished in the same time. Surely an hours cleaning is an hours cleaning

Hi

Hopefully, a cleaner could explain if they were offered two hours a week in one property with no pets and another that had pets, if the cleaner expected a higher rate. Most, would agree that a slightly higher rate would be required for a couple of hours.

Thanks

Er no.  A cleaner might explain that cleaning might take longer if the house had pets, so two and a half hours might be needed rather than two.  It would therefore be better to pay for the longer period of cleaning to obtain the desired result. 

Hi

Er, yes and I've met people that have told me that. Sure people could say they wanted more hours for a really messy house but just as easily and it is a fact that some will ask more per hour if the client has a pet/s as often many self-employed cleaners that may just do the one or two houses s need to look after their kids, take them to school, see the elderly parents etc. So, er it does happen and your point is no more valid than mine. 

Perhaps I could post a link confirm what I've seen and heard but won't as it can just as easily be countered because as I said some
do as per my post

Thanks

Whether some do or not, surely you can see it is illogical.  It would be like asking a higher hourly rate because the house was bigger and therefore it took longer to clean.  Do you think if you pay a higher hourly rate they just work twice as fast?

Would it also be illogical to ask for a higher rate to clean a bathroom where someone regularly has "accidents" with their bowel movements which may not take longer to clean up than a good general clean but which are much less pleasant?

silvercar

My cleaner just asked for a pay rise from January from 12.50 to 15. I was actually quite shocked at a 20% increase. She said she thought some people may reduce her hours as a result. She’s good, so I guess she thinks she can fill any hours that her current clients give up.

cmthephoenix

silvercar said:

My cleaner just asked for a pay rise from January from 12.50 to 15. I was actually quite shocked at a 20% increase. She said she thought some people may reduce her hours as a result. She’s good, so I guess she thinks she can fill any hours that her current clients give up.

You were shocked?? You've agreed she is good. Do you know how hard cleaning is for a good worker? Add to that the travel time and travel expenses between jobs. When I first met my now wife in 2007 she was both a private cleaner and an office cleaner. For office cleaning she got up at 3:30am for minimum wage (I think it was something like 7.50 an hour then) and they didn't give a s**t about her - she once got locked in the office overnight and didn't even get an apology. For her private cleaning she would often have to travel an hour between jobs and they would cancel jobs at a moment's notice leaving her with no income. She shared her bedroom with 2 other people she hardly knew just to make ends meet.

Thankfully she has worked hard for her way up in life and she is now a senior manager in the NHS on a very good wage.

billy2shots

cmthephoenix said:

silvercar said:

My cleaner just asked for a pay rise from January from 12.50 to 15. I was actually quite shocked at a 20% increase. She said she thought some people may reduce her hours as a result. She’s good, so I guess she thinks she can fill any hours that her current clients give up.

You were shocked?? You've agreed she is good. Do you know how hard cleaning is for a good worker? Add to that the travel time and travel expenses between jobs. When I first met my now wife in 2007 she was both a private cleaner and an office cleaner. For office cleaning she got up at 3:30am for minimum wage (I think it was something like 7.50 an hour then) and they didn't give a s**t about her - she once got locked in the office overnight and didn't even get an apology. For her private cleaning she would often have to travel an hour between jobs and they would cancel jobs at a moment's notice leaving her with no income. She shared her bedroom with 2 other people she hardly knew just to make ends meet.

Thankfully she has worked hard for her way up in life and she is now a senior manager in the NHS on a very good wage.

Absolutely amazing well done her.

£7.50 was minimum wage in 2017. To go from cleaner to senior Manager in the NHS in 5 years (less if it was before this year) is inspiring. 

Just shows what can be done with the right mindset.