How to ask for pay rise in private cleaning?

diystarter7

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

You are underselling yourself at £12 an hours, even in the wilds of Scotland you can’t get a cleaner for less than £15 per hour.  Just tell her that from Ist January or whatever date you choose, your rates are whatever you choose.

Is that via an agency as they are often a lot more expensive?

No, all cleaners here are self employed.  Not enough business for agencies.

Hi

Yes, they are and that is often a fact. Anyone employing a cleaner via an agency/business pay the agency quite a bit more and I've had dozens of people tell me when I worked for soc services years ago.

Thanks

I know some are but I was under the impression you asked asked me if the £15 I quoted  was for agency staff and I replied no,  

Hi
Not to worry, as threads get longer it can get confusing. Possibly I was not clear!
I hope it is now clear to you now..

Enjoy your weekend

Thanks

comeandgo

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

You are underselling yourself at £12 an hours, even in the wilds of Scotland you can’t get a cleaner for less than £15 per hour.  Just tell her that from Ist January or whatever date you choose, your rates are whatever you choose.

Is that via an agency as they are often a lot more expensive?

No, all cleaners here are self employed.  Not enough business for agencies.

Hi

Yes, they are and that is often a fact. Anyone employing a cleaner via an agency/business pay the agency quite a bit more and I've had dozens of people tell me when I worked for soc services years ago.

Thanks

I know some are but I was under the impression you asked asked me if the £15 I quoted  was for agency staff and I replied no,  

Hi
Not to worry, as threads get longer it can get confusing. Possibly I was not clear!
I hope it is now clear to you now..

Enjoy your weekend

Thanks

I’m not worried and not confused and it was always clear to me.

diystarter7

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

diystarter7 said:

comeandgo said:

You are underselling yourself at £12 an hours, even in the wilds of Scotland you can’t get a cleaner for less than £15 per hour.  Just tell her that from Ist January or whatever date you choose, your rates are whatever you choose.

Is that via an agency as they are often a lot more expensive?

No, all cleaners here are self employed.  Not enough business for agencies.

Hi

Yes, they are and that is often a fact. Anyone employing a cleaner via an agency/business pay the agency quite a bit more and I've had dozens of people tell me when I worked for soc services years ago.

Thanks

I know some are but I was under the impression you asked asked me if the £15 I quoted  was for agency staff and I replied no,  

Hi
Not to worry, as threads get longer it can get confusing. Possibly I was not clear!
I hope it is now clear to you now..

Enjoy your weekend

Thanks

I’m not worried and not confused and it was always clear to me.

Hi

I'm here to be helped and help and not get into arguments. I've tried hard to make clear what was being stated by me  about agency/etc vs a person that is self employed IE Not agency etc.

There is nothing more I can add as I have tried.

Thanks.

74jax

diystarter7 said:

littleboo said:

I'm not sure of the logic that a cat of a dog would increase the rate. That might increase the hours required, or reduce what can be accomplished in the same time. Surely an hours cleaning is an hours cleaning

Hi

Hopefully, a cleaner could explain if they were offered two hours a week in one property with no pets and another that had pets, if the cleaner expected a higher rate. Most, would agree that a slightly higher rate would be required for a couple of hours.

Thanks

Why though? 2 hours cleaning is just that. 
We have a dog and over the last 20 years have had cleaners. 
Of a house with no pets paid for 2 hours cleaning, that is what they get. If I pay for 2 hours cleaning with a dog, that is what I get. Yes they may get round to cleaning more of the house without a pet, but why does it change the hourly rate.... 
Same as a 3 bed house v 2 bed. More of the 2 bed will be cleaned than the 3 bed.  

diystarter7

74jax said:

diystarter7 said:

littleboo said:

I'm not sure of the logic that a cat of a dog would increase the rate. That might increase the hours required, or reduce what can be accomplished in the same time. Surely an hours cleaning is an hours cleaning

Hi

Hopefully, a cleaner could explain if they were offered two hours a week in one property with no pets and another that had pets, if the cleaner expected a higher rate. Most, would agree that a slightly higher rate would be required for a couple of hours.

Thanks

Why though? 2 hours cleaning is just that. 
We have a dog and over the last 20 years have had cleaners. 
Of a house with no pets paid for 2 hours cleaning, that is what they get. If I pay for 2 hours cleaning with a dog, that is what I get. Yes they may get round to cleaning more of the house without a pet, but why does it change the hourly rate.... 
Same as a 3 bed house v 2 bed. More of the 2 bed will be cleaned than the 3 bed.  

Hello

Why you ask? TBH I thought it was abundantly clear but as it is not, ask any cleaner that does this kind of work and I bet you most will agree with me that for a couple of hours work in a house that has a pet and one does not they will aim for more.
Don't take my work for it, thanks. Just search the net and what those helping those that want to be slef employed cleaners are saying and they are agreeing with what my client's cleaners told me when I met them as we chatted and asked out of interest for parents their rates.

Thanks

Mojisola

diystarter7 said:

Why you ask? TBH I thought it was abundantly clear but as it is not, ask any cleaner that does this kind of work and I bet you most will agree with me that for a couple of hours work in a house that has a pet and one does not they will aim for more.

We've had experience of a number of cleaners (both from agencies and self-employed) over the years between elderly parents and our own place.  Not one has ever mentioned different rates for when we had pets.

elsien

I have just asked parent’s cleaner and her view is that it’s the same rate but (as with any house, whether due to pets, children, general messiness) some houses get less done in the available time due to the above. 

I am a little concerned that the level of distraction being posted has sent the OP off elsewhere, which would be a shame. 

Here’s hoping they can sort the wheat from the chaff with the advice that has been given. 

diystarter7

Mojisola said:

diystarter7 said:

Why you ask? TBH I thought it was abundantly clear but as it is not, ask any cleaner that does this kind of work and I bet you most will agree with me that for a couple of hours work in a house that has a pet and one does not they will aim for more.

We've had experience of a number of cleaners (both from agencies and self-employed) over the years between elderly parents and our own place.  Not one has ever mentioned different rates for when we had pets.

Hello

Sure and I have a lot more experience than that by asking clients as per my previous post -  I also recall some cleints telling me they were being charged extra for cat/dogs. I'm happy with that and I've also seen how cleaners may quote more for pets if cleaning onece twice a week for an hour or two. I'm happy with that. Look it up if you want as I know if I post a link not everyone will accept the fact.

Thanks

kinger101

diystarter7 said:

littleboo said:

I'm not sure of the logic that a cat of a dog would increase the rate. That might increase the hours required, or reduce what can be accomplished in the same time. Surely an hours cleaning is an hours cleaning

Hi

Hopefully, a cleaner could explain if they were offered two hours a week in one property with no pets and another that had pets, if the cleaner expected a higher rate. Most, would agree that a slightly higher rate would be required for a couple of hours.

Thanks

Er no.  A cleaner might explain that cleaning might take longer if the house had pets, so two and a half hours might be needed rather than two.  It would therefore be better to pay for the longer period of cleaning to obtain the desired result. 

kinger101

OP- if you've not raised you rate in 18 months, then I don't think they'll be shocked that you need to increase your. prices.  An CPI based adjustment would put you on £13.84 ph.  So asking for £14 is not unreasonable, possibly more if you think they're very happy with your standard of work.