Notice of Intention to Prosecute Registered Keeper Severe Learning Disability

user1977

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

Why do you think using satnavs is an essential component of driving? 

molerat

user1977 said:

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

Why do you think using satnavs is an essential component of driving? 

Because it is part of the driving test ? 

Obviously someone somewhere decided it was an essential part of driving.

TooManyPoints

I think we need to move away from satnavs. The issue here is whether the OP's partner, as Registered Keeper, can properly comply with a s172 request.

ontheroad1970

molerat said:

user1977 said:

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

Why do you think using satnavs is an essential component of driving? 

Because it is part of the driving test ? 

Obviously someone somewhere decided it was an essential part of driving.

If someone can't use one because of a disability then I'm sure they will revert to a more accessible medium, like the one they had before.  It's a matter of informing the DVSA before the test is taken, just like with any other disability.  

I doubt that satnavs were introduced because they were an essential part of driving, or else we wouldn't be allowed to drive without using satnav, which would be absurd.  It's more a case of measuring how we drive when using a satnav.  

Someone with serious dyslexia would be directed by their passenger when necessary so I suspect the test would run with verbal directions rather than satnav.  

DanDare999

ontheroad1970 said:

molerat said:

user1977 said:

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

Why do you think using satnavs is an essential component of driving? 

Because it is part of the driving test ? 

Obviously someone somewhere decided it was an essential part of driving.

If someone can't use one because of a disability then I'm sure they will revert to a more accessible medium, like the one they had before.  It's a matter of informing the DVSA before the test is taken, just like with any other disability.  

I doubt that satnavs were introduced because they were an essential part of driving, or else we wouldn't be allowed to drive without using satnav, which would be absurd.  It's more a case of measuring how we drive when using a satnav.  

Someone with serious dyslexia would be directed by their passenger when necessary so I suspect the test would run with verbal directions rather than satnav.  

They were introduced due to the number of accidents when people claimed to be following the sat nav. 

My point about them was turn left at the end of the road. If you can’t understand that instruction from a sat nav how is it different if the passenger tells them?

Car_54

DanDare999 said:

ontheroad1970 said:

molerat said:

user1977 said:

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

Why do you think using satnavs is an essential component of driving? 

Because it is part of the driving test ? 

Obviously someone somewhere decided it was an essential part of driving.

If someone can't use one because of a disability then I'm sure they will revert to a more accessible medium, like the one they had before.  It's a matter of informing the DVSA before the test is taken, just like with any other disability.  

I doubt that satnavs were introduced because they were an essential part of driving, or else we wouldn't be allowed to drive without using satnav, which would be absurd.  It's more a case of measuring how we drive when using a satnav.  

Someone with serious dyslexia would be directed by their passenger when necessary so I suspect the test would run with verbal directions rather than satnav.  

They were introduced due to the number of accidents when people claimed to be following the sat nav. 

My point about them was turn left at the end of the road. If you can’t understand that instruction from a sat nav how is it different if the passenger tells them?

Any instructor will tell you that "Turn left at the end of the road" is easily misinterpreted. The driver has turned left into a handy driveway before you have finished the sentence!,

That is why examiners and instructors (and I hope satnavs) always say "At the end of the road, turn left".

DanDare999

[Deleted User] said:

DanDare999 said:

ontheroad1970 said:

molerat said:

user1977 said:

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

Why do you think using satnavs is an essential component of driving? 

Because it is part of the driving test ? 

Obviously someone somewhere decided it was an essential part of driving.

If someone can't use one because of a disability then I'm sure they will revert to a more accessible medium, like the one they had before.  It's a matter of informing the DVSA before the test is taken, just like with any other disability.  

I doubt that satnavs were introduced because they were an essential part of driving, or else we wouldn't be allowed to drive without using satnav, which would be absurd.  It's more a case of measuring how we drive when using a satnav.  

Someone with serious dyslexia would be directed by their passenger when necessary so I suspect the test would run with verbal directions rather than satnav.  

They were introduced due to the number of accidents when people claimed to be following the sat nav. 

My point about them was turn left at the end of the road. If you can’t understand that instruction from a sat nav how is it different if the passenger tells them?

Any instructor will tell you that "Turn left at the end of the road" is easily misinterpreted. The driver has turned left into a handy driveway before you have finished the sentence!,

That is why examiners and instructors (and I hope satnavs) always say "At the end of the road, turn left".

Pedantry duly noted. 

Ath_Wat

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

I passed my test before satnavs existed. I have never ever used one.  I probably never will.  I am sure I could if I had to, but if I couldn't, on what grounds do you think I shouldn't drive?

DanDare999

Ath_Wat said:

DanDare999 said:

CKhalvashi said:

YBR said:

DanDare999 said:

How can he not use a sat nav, was that not part of his test? I understand he may have difficulty setting one if you told him where he was going but he must understand at the end of the road turn left. 

Satnavs have only been part of the test relatively recently. They didn't exist when I took mine.

Nor when I did mine. That was many years ago now though (but I did have to take a Theory test).

Flight3287462 said:

OP I think you are over thinking this, just get the form filled in, get him to sign it and sent back pronto.

I can only agree with this part. You can write for him, he can initial and sign it in any way he can. There will be no issues from this happening.

Flight3287462 said:

You seem to think these things should be covered but that in itself opens its own can of worms.  How many pages would you need to cover all eventualities in say languages for those that don't speak English.  

I note that you haven't read the EU regulations for the sale of cabbages (forum team, I know this isn't correct but it was a fun joke at some time in the past and is entirely sarcasm in nature)

I did neither but my point still stands about following a sat nav. You don't actually have to be able to do it on test but if you can follow one should you really be driving?

I passed my test before satnavs existed. I have never ever used one.  I probably never will.  I am sure I could if I had to, but if I couldn't, on what grounds do you think I shouldn't drive?

If someone isn't capable of following simple instructions do you think they have the capacity to drive? 

If you can understand a passenger telling you to turn left why can't you understand the sat nav voice?

sheramber

TinyClanger1973 said:

His difficulties are such he wouldn't be able to fill in the form even if he could relay the information to me.  His memory recall is poor, part of the many ways his dyslexia affects him, he can't even remember the basics such as his full address or date of birth.  There would be no choice but for me to complete the form and for him to mark it.  They really need something in their guidelines.

Severe memory loss must be reported to DVLA and from your post he has severe memory loss.