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  • BUFF
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    edited 12 November 2022 at 10:20PM
    AAZ said:
    BUFF said:

    I would also look at Tado. With Black Friday coming up there should be some good deals across "smart" thermostats.
    & of course Vaillant have their own.

    Btw that Siemens RDH10RF & RCR10/433 set up is a Class IV thermostat. I haven't a clue about the Honeywell but having 2 wireless receivers+thermostats from different  companies seems an unusual set up to me.
    Do you have a zone valve?
    I have purchased this property in March so although 6 months in still discovering , I don't know if I have zone valve

    AAZ, sorry, pal - you have three zone valves (ie 2-port motorised valves).
    Well, two of them are for the two heating zones, and the third is for heating up your hot cylinder. If you look in the cupboard where your hot cylinder is, you will identify three nearly-identical objects. No, not the spiders, but the three silvery rectangular objects on your pipes.


    Photos of this & your timer would help confirm what you need/want.

    If you do have 3 zones & you decide that you want to go with Drayton Wiser you need Kit 3 (~£180 pre Black Friday if you look around).  I think that this may well be your best/cheapest option (subject to BF offers), Nest may well work out the dearest.
    https://www.draytoncontrols.co.uk/product/wiser-thermostat-kit-3-0


  • The issue one person has had on here re. WiFi connection, will almost certainly apply equally to all such systems; I doubt very much, but don't know for certain, that Hive has a poorer signal than others. 


    Hive has just lost connection again when I went to turn the temp down a degree. Not just on the app, but on the thermostat aswel.

    Admittedly we don’t have the best Wi-Fi here, but I’m not convinced it is necessarily that. 

    Before I could contact tech support and get a hub signal booster, I removed the hub and put the thermostat and receiver into stand alone mode (essentially back to a standard thermostat, not using Wi-Fi). That would also lose connection, even with the thermostat in close proximity to the receiver.

    We never had an issue with our previous wireless thermostat (until I lost it, but that’s a whole other issue).

    When it works, it’s great. But I am disappointed in the reliability. As an example, the other day I had turned the heating off on my phone. The app said everything was fine. 1/2 hour later the heating is still going. The app said the heating was off, the thermostat showed it continued to heat.





  • BUFF
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    Do Hive smart plugs also work as extenders/repeaters as Drayton Wiser's do? If so, that may be worth exploring.
  • Before I could contact tech support and get a hub signal booster, I removed the hub and put the thermostat and receiver into stand alone mode (essentially back to a standard thermostat, not using Wi-Fi). That would also lose connection, even with the thermostat in close proximity to the receiver.
    Summat wrong, by the sounds of it.

    I've fitted a couple of two-zone hives, one at home and one in a village hall - the latter is particularly brilliant for remote changing of heating to suit changing groups. Both are working without any issues.
  • BUFF said:
    Do Hive smart plugs also work as extenders/repeaters as Drayton Wiser's do? If so, that may be worth exploring.
    I’m not sure, but I have a Hive hub signal booster as recommended by the tech team, as equidistant between all the devices as I can get. It is better but still not perfect. It is of course only my experience and others may well be different. I just don’t think I will invest in the smart TRVs now, which was one of the reasons I wanted a smart thermostat.
  • AAZ
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    BUFF said:
    AAZ said:
    BUFF said:

    I would also look at Tado. With Black Friday coming up there should be some good deals across "smart" thermostats.
    & of course Vaillant have their own.

    Btw that Siemens RDH10RF & RCR10/433 set up is a Class IV thermostat. I haven't a clue about the Honeywell but having 2 wireless receivers+thermostats from different  companies seems an unusual set up to me.
    Do you have a zone valve?
    I have purchased this property in March so although 6 months in still discovering , I don't know if I have zone valve

    AAZ, sorry, pal - you have three zone valves (ie 2-port motorised valves).
    Well, two of them are for the two heating zones, and the third is for heating up your hot cylinder. If you look in the cupboard where your hot cylinder is, you will identify three nearly-identical objects. No, not the spiders, but the three silvery rectangular objects on your pipes.


    Photos of this & your timer would help confirm what you need/want.

    If you do have 3 zones & you decide that you want to go with Drayton Wiser you need Kit 3 (~£180 pre Black Friday if you look around).  I think that this may well be your best/cheapest option (subject to BF offers), Nest may well work out the dearest.
    https://www.draytoncontrols.co.uk/product/wiser-thermostat-kit-3-0


    Many thanks I am not sure which is one Zone valve
  • BUFF
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    edited 13 November 2022 at 7:19PM
    I can't actually see a zone valve (anybody else?).
    You would be looking for something like one of these https://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/motorised-valves/cat831028

    Can you take a less blurry shot of the timer, please (or does anybody else know make/model - not that it really matters)?
  • Bendy_House
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    edited 14 November 2022 at 12:36PM
    AAZ said:
    Many thanks I am not sure which is one Zone valve
    Second photo: See the 4 red wheels, bottom left? See the bottom right one of them? See the pipe coming out of the cylinder just above/behind that red wheel, curving down and going through the floor? 
    Cool. Now find where it goes - you'll likely find one of the valves there :-)
  • bob_a_builder
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    edited 14 November 2022 at 12:09PM
    BUFF said:
    I can't actually see a zone valve (anybody else?).
    You would be looking for something like one of these https://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/motorised-valves/cat831028

    Can you take a less blurry shot of the timer, please (or does anybody else know make/model - not that it really matters)?
    Looks like a Danfoss - from the case shape, position of display and grey buttons - no idea on model though

    Although not seeing a similar one with heating on left and water on right 
    out of all these
    LINK 
  • BUFF
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    Good call, looks like an FP715 or similar then.
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