Leaving job without notice

DullGreyGuy

In many companies you dont have a choice and HR does all references even if its sent to a manager

General_Grant

Charlotte_Ca said:

If I need to give a reference from my last job, can I just give the HR email address?  YES (or geographic address if requested)

I've had two managers in my last job as I had two different roles. In the first role I was really good and didn't have any issues with the manager and I think he didn't have either because he never said anything to me. Personally, I felt like I was smashing it and was really good.

On the second one (they changed my role), I feel my relationship with the manager was a bit weird especially towards the end because when I was explaining to her that I cannot work due to stress and need some time off she was becoming a little bit angry towards me. I didn't like her anymore. Plus when I resigned I told her that I cannot work my 2 months notice due to health reasons. But, I always did my job right and the only complained she had was that I was not productive (that's their fault though bc they don't have good training).

So, I don't feel like giving her email for a reference at all. Shall I give the HR email or my first manager's email?

You don't give contact details for individual managers unless you have asked them and they have said it is OK.  Some companies say that all references have to go through HR and individual members of staff must not give references.

So, you could ask the first manager whether you could give their details but don't expect them to say it's OK however well they thought of you.

HR are likely to give a basic reference giving your job title(s) and dates employed.  What else they say will depend on the organisations rules.

elsien

What my organisation used to do was the reference would be sent to a manager and they sent it on to me to complete and then they would check to make sure it was okay before it was sent off. 

So depending on your organisations policy, your manager may or may not be writing it regardless of who’s contact details you give. Bear in mind that a reference has to be accurate and any negative comments able to be substantiated.

Charlotte_Ca

elsien said:

What my organisation used to do was the reference would be sent to a manager and they sent it on to me to complete and then they would check to make sure it was okay before it was sent off. 

So depending on your organisations policy, your manager may or may not be writing it regardless of who’s contact details you give. Bear in mind that a reference has to be accurate and any negative comments able to be substantiated.

What was your role in the company and they would send it to you?

Ath_Wat

Charlotte_Ca said:

If I need to give a reference from my last job, can I just give the HR email address?

Personally, I haven't given any prospective employer "a reference" in 25 years; nor has anyone asked me for one.  My CV has the company name and addresses of my previous employers, and I presume they use that themselves to work out who to contact.

elsien

Charlotte_Ca said:

elsien said:

What my organisation used to do was the reference would be sent to a manager and they sent it on to me to complete and then they would check to make sure it was okay before it was sent off. 

So depending on your organisations policy, your manager may or may not be writing it regardless of who’s contact details you give. Bear in mind that a reference has to be accurate and any negative comments able to be substantiated.

What was your role in the company and they would send it to you?

I was a first line manager so the request would come to me from the area manager as the person who know the employee best. Then it went off to HR to be checked and to make sure I wasn't saying anything that could get the company sued. 

Charlotte_Ca

elsien said:

Charlotte_Ca said:

elsien said:

What my organisation used to do was the reference would be sent to a manager and they sent it on to me to complete and then they would check to make sure it was okay before it was sent off. 

So depending on your organisations policy, your manager may or may not be writing it regardless of who’s contact details you give. Bear in mind that a reference has to be accurate and any negative comments able to be substantiated.

What was your role in the company and they would send it to you?

I was a first line manager so the request would come to me from the area manager as the person who know the employee best. Then it went off to HR to be checked and to make sure I wasn't saying anything that could get the company sued. 

Interesting! I didn't know that the HR would check the reference before it was to be sent out.

Ath_Wat

Charlotte_Ca said:

elsien said:

Charlotte_Ca said:

elsien said:

What my organisation used to do was the reference would be sent to a manager and they sent it on to me to complete and then they would check to make sure it was okay before it was sent off. 

So depending on your organisations policy, your manager may or may not be writing it regardless of who’s contact details you give. Bear in mind that a reference has to be accurate and any negative comments able to be substantiated.

What was your role in the company and they would send it to you?

I was a first line manager so the request would come to me from the area manager as the person who know the employee best. Then it went off to HR to be checked and to make sure I wasn't saying anything that could get the company sued. 

Interesting! I didn't know that the HR would check the reference before it was to be sent out.

That is just one company.  There is no standard procedure.

Savvy_Sue

Ath_Wat said:

Charlotte_Ca said:

Interesting! I didn't know that the HR would check the reference before it was to be sent out.

That is just one company.  There is no standard procedure.

But it's not uncommon these days for the reference process to be 'centralised'. And if you're looking for work, it's worth knowing how it's done for relevant employers. 

Since you may well not know whether individual managers are still in post, even quite soon after you've left, giving a 'central' HR address should always 'work'. Make sure that personal referees are aware, and are happy to be used as a reference. I've been in my current role for over 20 years, my present manager has been in post for less than a year, and I'm still in touch with my old manager as a friend, so I'd give them a heads up, even though I'd expect a new employer to want a reference from my most recent manager.