Leaving job without notice

turnitround

Charlotte_Ca said:

elsien said:

Is there a specific question around what happens next, or are you just wanting to hear other people’s general experiences?
You’re asking about how did people cope, do you mean coping financially, coping with getting a new job, coping with benefits, or more psychologically? 

. When I asked from my senior assistance, she just referred me to an online training.

Did the online training no help? Did you follow up with your senior about that? 



On my return from the sick leave she even put me on a Personal Improvement Plan. Nobody in my life ever put me on a PIP. I felt angry and stressed again. Later I've leaned that everyone was put on a PIP as well. They were blaming the employees for not being able to do the job when at the same time they were not teaching us things properly. 

Why would you feel angry about being put on a PIP plan? Would this not have helped you to be able to discuss your lack of training?

That manager would comment on people who were chatting a lot or standing up from their desk often. I found this bad. When she was in the office nobody would dare to chat, because they knew she would tell them off. 

But that is what managers are there to do, manage the team and ensure employees are productive as they are paid to work not stand about chatting. That said, managers are also there to ensure employees are being trained properly and address any issues around this. 
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I feel there is this notion that employees need to be able to adapt to changes at work and stay at least a year in jobs, but we are humans and have our own personal life as well. How are we supposed to survive in a toxic work environment along with everything else happening in our own life? 

That is life at work, we all have to juggle work and personal lives. If this was not the right job for you then you did the right thing in leaving. However, it may have been better to work your notice and get a reference for your next employer. Knowing you could leaving without notice wont make you a good choice for another company.

Ath_Wat

Charlotte_Ca said:

I recently left a well paid job on the same day without working my notice. It was a toxic work environment and the majority of the employees were just complaining mainly due to lack of training and then on top of  that the management team had expectations from us.

The audacity.  You had no choice but to leave.

theoretica

The alternative to leaving without notice would have been to leave with notice - but get signed off sick for your notice period.  That might have been the 'proper' way of doing it - but would add the notice period to your sick record.  I think you would be wise to think carefully about preparing ways to word your choice to leave without notice and a reassurance to a new prospective employer about your sickness record.

DanDare999

Charlotte_Ca said:

DanDare999 said:

I left a job with a toxic environment early this year, didn't work any notice. Between deciding to leave and actually telling my line manager found another job and started three weeks after leaving. Haven't looked back.

What was it that you were not enjoying at that place?

Lack of training, management wanting more out of the employees for no extra reward. Staff constantly meaning about how bad it was and doing noticing positive about it. Time/distance spent travelling each day. 

JonVarnas

I've quit two jobs without notice this year, both distribution warehouses. The physical work wasn't a problem and was quite easy but there was a toxic environment. Everybody seemed to want to screw each other over: managers screwing over operatives, managers screwing over other managers, even operatives screwing over other operatives. In the end I just decided not to turn up for work and never contacted them again. HR didn't care and to be fair just went through the motions for dismissal. I just went back to temping.

Charlotte_Ca

turnitround said:

Charlotte_Ca said:

elsien said:

Is there a specific question around what happens next, or are you just wanting to hear other people’s general experiences?
You’re asking about how did people cope, do you mean coping financially, coping with getting a new job, coping with benefits, or more psychologically? 

. When I asked from my senior assistance, she just referred me to an online training.

Did the online training no help? Did you follow up with your senior about that? 



On my return from the sick leave she even put me on a Personal Improvement Plan. Nobody in my life ever put me on a PIP. I felt angry and stressed again. Later I've leaned that everyone was put on a PIP as well. They were blaming the employees for not being able to do the job when at the same time they were not teaching us things properly. 

Why would you feel angry about being put on a PIP plan? Would this not have helped you to be able to discuss your lack of training?

That manager would comment on people who were chatting a lot or standing up from their desk often. I found this bad. When she was in the office nobody would dare to chat, because they knew she would tell them off. 

But that is what managers are there to do, manage the team and ensure employees are productive as they are paid to work not stand about chatting. That said, managers are also there to ensure employees are being trained properly and address any issues around this. 
-------------------------

I feel there is this notion that employees need to be able to adapt to changes at work and stay at least a year in jobs, but we are humans and have our own personal life as well. How are we supposed to survive in a toxic work environment along with everything else happening in our own life? 

That is life at work, we all have to juggle work and personal lives. If this was not the right job for you then you did the right thing in leaving. However, it may have been better to work your notice and get a reference for your next employer. Knowing you could leaving without notice wont make you a good choice for another company.

Good questions! 1. Did the online training no help? Did you follow up with your senior about that? The online training did help with the terminology, but what I wanted was the senior to come and sit with me and explain the way this terminology was coded in our system. That’s what I had difficulty understanding. I think she didn’t understand that. So, I never asked her again to come and sit with me because I felt that she didn’t want to help. Instead I was just sending her emails whenever I was getting something I was not understanding as she was WFH most of the times. I get the feeling that she didn’t know much of the job either and she was just trying to avoid things. 2. Why would you feel angry about being put on a PIP plan? Would this not have helped you to be able to discuss your lack of training? To be fair they put me on PIP the day after I came back from being away for 2.5 weeks due to stress and anxiety. So, coming back to work feeling already stressed and then my manager putting me on PIP it just increased the pressure on me and stress just increased. I had explained my anxiety to my manager as I had a housing situation with weird housemates and I said that little things now can increase my anxiety and that’s why I asked her to WFH for a month until I could settle down a little bit. Wouldn’t help going to an office that people are frustrated with their job. But she didn’t want to accommodate that at all. At the same time, we had people who were WFH fully so I couldn’t understand why she didn’t let me WFH. I couldn’t bear more stress in my life at that time and that’s why I resigned. I also couldn’t bear the fact that the job was not straight forward and you could get different answers from different people. I felt this was poor leadership. I think I didn’t have much courage to fight with them anymore on the lack of training. 3. But that is what managers are there to do, manage the team and ensure employees are productive as they are paid to work not stand about chatting. That said, managers are also there to ensure employees are being trained properly and address any issues around this. Make sense what you say, but if you have a manager that tells you a couple of times if you have a question then please don’t ask me as I don’t know much then how would you feel?

Charlotte_Ca

theoretica said:

The alternative to leaving without notice would have been to leave with notice - but get signed off sick for your notice period.  That might have been the 'proper' way of doing it - but would add the notice period to your sick record.  I think you would be wise to think carefully about preparing ways to word your choice to leave without notice and a reassurance to a new prospective employer about your sickness record.

I had 2 months notice, so even if I got signed off on my notice period could they not terminate my employment their side? That's what I thought and I was like well it's better to resign.

Charlotte_Ca

JonVarnas said:

I've quit two jobs without notice this year, both distribution warehouses. The physical work wasn't a problem and was quite easy but there was a toxic environment. Everybody seemed to want to screw each other over: managers screwing over operatives, managers screwing over other managers, even operatives screwing over other operatives. In the end I just decided not to turn up for work and never contacted them again. HR didn't care and to be fair just went through the motions for dismissal. I just went back to temping.

That's always the case. The issue most of the times is not the job, but the people.

TELLIT01

Walking out without servicing the notice period, without getting the agreement of the employer, is certainly likely to impact on getting future employment.  Any potential employer is going to require references and, although many companies do not just give the minimum of start and end dates plus job title, in the given situation I suspect many would also add something to the effect of 'walked out without giving or serving notice period'.  It's a fallacy to believe a company cannot give a bad reference, they can as long as the content is accurate.

Charlotte_Ca

TELLIT01 said:

Walking out without servicing the notice period, without getting the agreement of the employer, is certainly likely to impact on getting future employment.  Any potential employer is going to require references and, although many companies do not just give the minimum of start and end dates plus job title, in the given situation I suspect many would also add something to the effect of 'walked out without giving or serving notice period'.  It's a fallacy to believe a company cannot give a bad reference, they can as long as the content is accurate.

To be fair since I left I have spoken to a few recruiters and when they ask me why I left I say due to lack of training. A few of them said to me that they are already aware that this company doesn't offer good training as other people who have left complained about that as well.

So, if I don't know how to do a job and I'm still learning what's the reason of staying there to work my notice?