Healthy tinned food?

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Longwalker said:

I adore tinned Kippers, topped with a poached egg - a very healthy meal

I tend to eat a lot of tinned fish - sardines, mackerel etc. An extremely cheap way of getting oily fish in the diet 

Tinned beans - very healthy. All tinned beans are 

Tinned fruit, in natural juice is fine as well. Yes its full of sugar - all fruit is, but there again you arent supposed to eat lots of fruit anyway, but tinned fruit is better then no fruit 

When I was a nipper we only had tinned food, home freezers weren't affordable to most. I remember having frozen peas for the first time after growing up on tinned - and hated them. I still also prefer tinned carrots to this day 

I too eat a lot of tinned fish, agree with the Omega oils.
I have an acquaintance that catches his own fish and smokes it himself too ...... on the odd occasion i'm given some and it's soooooo good 👍

YoungBlueEyes

I quite like tinned fish but mmmm fresh fish and smoked fish.... 

Only frozen petit pois here too!

KxMx

Longwalker said:

I adore tinned Kippers, topped with a poached egg - a very healthy meal

I tend to eat a lot of tinned fish - sardines, mackerel etc. An extremely cheap way of getting oily fish in the diet 

Tinned beans - very healthy. All tinned beans are 

Tinned fruit, in natural juice is fine as well. Yes its full of sugar - all fruit is, but there again you arent supposed to eat lots of fruit anyway, but tinned fruit is better then no fruit 

When I was a nipper we only had tinned food, home freezers weren't affordable to most. I remember having frozen peas for the first time after growing up on tinned - and hated them. I still also prefer tinned carrots to this day 

Fruit contains natural sugar and not processed, refined sugar.
Fruit also gives you not only vitamins, minerals and anti oxidants, but the fibre within the fruit slows down the bodies absorption of the sugar. An apple won't spike your blood sugar like say a chocolate bar would.

EssexHebridean

Novice_investor101 said:

I tend to buy veg frozen as it keeps for a lot longer than fresh, but tinned potatoes, sweetcorn, tinned peas & carrots are ok. I eat them when camping. Tinned toms, garlic paste, tomato puree & a tin of tomatoes makes a simple pasta sauce. Then there’s the good, old favourite of soups. 

Also, some tinned “meals” are actually without chemical ingredients, like Tesco’s tinned curries. 

They're not, you know - I just bet that amongst other ingredients you'll find those curries contain sodium chloride, dihydrogen monoxide, and no doubt countless other "terrifying sounding" ingredients... 

We really need to stop this demonising of chemicals (not specifically suggest that you were intending to Novice Investor - but there is an awful lot of it about.) EVERYTHING in the world is chemicals, sure, there are some you wouldn't want to eat, but generally speaking if you find those in food something has gone very wrong indeed.  Other common demonising around food - "good" and "bad" - food shouldn't have a moral value, some foods might "go bad" but they rarely naturally start off that way, and "processed" - so often portrayed as a shocking thing - but some processed food is wonderful - washing the earth off tatties is processing, as is cracking an egg, or cutting up a lettuce, making milk into cheese...  so not all processing is in any way bad! Some Ultra processed foods tend towards having less nutritional density than less processed alternatives - but even those have their place in a healthy balanced diet. 

In answer to the question - I seem to recall it's repeatedly been proved that both frozen and tinned vegetables in particular can actually be higher in nutrients than fresh. There is also the question that for some people access to "fresh" food isn't easy - and if you live for example in an area without a large supermarket anywhere walking distance away, you have no car and no money spare for bus fares, then a "quick-stop" type shop might be your only practical option for food purchases. In many cases the "fresh" options in those shops can be anything but - so having a supply of tinned of frozen items can make the difference between a more nutritionally dense diet, and the alternative. 

Our tinned food cupboard is always well stocked with, among other things:
Soups, Tuna, Sardines, Chopped toms, various different beans and pulses, tinned sweetcorn, tinned fruit....(And don't even get me started on the ludicrous arguments suggesting that fruit is unhealthy because - gasp - it contains sugar.)

Caroby

Some tinned fruit and veg are healthier than others. I check the ingredients on the label and try to choose tins with less or no sugar/salt. I always buy tinned fruit in juice not syrup, there's less choice looking for cheaper tins but some good ones, e.g. Lidl mandarin slices in juice. Every main shop we do usually includes tinned chopped tomatoes, chickpeas, kidney beans, butter beans, marrowfat peas, baked beans, pease pudding and a few tins of fruit.

Longwalker

KxMx said:

Longwalker said:

I adore tinned Kippers, topped with a poached egg - a very healthy meal

I tend to eat a lot of tinned fish - sardines, mackerel etc. An extremely cheap way of getting oily fish in the diet 

Tinned beans - very healthy. All tinned beans are 

Tinned fruit, in natural juice is fine as well. Yes its full of sugar - all fruit is, but there again you arent supposed to eat lots of fruit anyway, but tinned fruit is better then no fruit 

When I was a nipper we only had tinned food, home freezers weren't affordable to most. I remember having frozen peas for the first time after growing up on tinned - and hated them. I still also prefer tinned carrots to this day 

Fruit contains natural sugar and not processed, refined sugar.
Fruit also gives you not only vitamins, minerals and anti oxidants, but the fibre within the fruit slows down the bodies absorption of the sugar. An apple won't spike your blood sugar like say a chocolate bar would.

Im aware of that, Im also aware that as part of your 5/10 a day only one should be liquid fruit and the rest of the fruit should be that of the fibrous variety and whole 

I personally dont eat fruit, I dont feel the need, I dont particularly like it and it hurts my teeth.

I dont like veg much either but do know I have to eat it and at least its not excruciatingly sweet nor hurts my teeth

My point about tinned fruit is that the fibre content has been cooked out of it. Ok its there,  but now pulp, easily digested , not even the teeth have to work to get it in the stomach, its not going to give you the same benefit of eating an apple

I detest fruit and the only fruit I do eat and enjoy is a tin of Exotic fruit cocktail. Im not kidding myself its good for me, but I do eat it now and again for the variety it brings to a diet. As I said, tinned fruit is better then none, but lets not pretend its healthy

I actually prefer dried fruit, yet I can, if following a deathly diet, eat a lot less of that then the whole fruit.

Fruit, to be classed as healthy has to be consumed in its natural state and only as part of a balanced diet

Rather like Potatoes arent classed as a veg as part of the 5/10 a day. We would all be eating chips and crisps daily counting it as one

JIL

Fish cakes : tinned salmon or tuna, grated tinned potatoes. Mixed together, maybe add a little cheese and fry the blobs. They are a bit like rosti.
Serve with tinned peas.

pelirocco

EssexHebridean said:

Novice_investor101 said:

I tend to buy veg frozen as it keeps for a lot longer than fresh, but tinned potatoes, sweetcorn, tinned peas & carrots are ok. I eat them when camping. Tinned toms, garlic paste, tomato puree & a tin of tomatoes makes a simple pasta sauce. Then there’s the good, old favourite of soups. 

Also, some tinned “meals” are actually without chemical ingredients, like Tesco’s tinned curries. 

They're not, you know - I just bet that amongst other ingredients you'll find those curries contain sodium chloride, dihydrogen monoxide, and no doubt countless other "terrifying sounding" ingredients... 

We really need to stop this demonising of chemicals (not specifically suggest that you were intending to Novice Investor - but there is an awful lot of it about.) EVERYTHING in the world is chemicals, sure, there are some you wouldn't want to eat, but generally speaking if you find those in food something has gone very wrong indeed.  Other common demonising around food - "good" and "bad" - food shouldn't have a moral value, some foods might "go bad" but they rarely naturally start off that way, and "processed" - so often portrayed as a shocking thing - but some processed food is wonderful - washing the earth off tatties is processing, as is cracking an egg, or cutting up a lettuce, making milk into cheese...  so not all processing is in any way bad! Some Ultra processed foods tend towards having less nutritional density than less processed alternatives - but even those have their place in a healthy balanced diet. 

In answer to the question - I seem to recall it's repeatedly been proved that both frozen and tinned vegetables in particular can actually be higher in nutrients than fresh. There is also the question that for some people access to "fresh" food isn't easy - and if you live for example in an area without a large supermarket anywhere walking distance away, you have no car and no money spare for bus fares, then a "quick-stop" type shop might be your only practical option for food purchases. In many cases the "fresh" options in those shops can be anything but - so having a supply of tinned of frozen items can make the difference between a more nutritionally dense diet, and the alternative. 

Our tinned food cupboard is always well stocked with, among other things:
Soups, Tuna, Sardines, Chopped toms, various different beans and pulses, tinned sweetcorn, tinned fruit....(And don't even get me started on the ludicrous arguments suggesting that fruit is unhealthy because - gasp - it contains sugar.)

Actually  if you are a diabetic  fruit is classed  as unhealthy ,
Just because it grows " naturally " doesn't make it healthy

oldage

I think a person can stay pretty healthy off of a combination of frozen and tinned fruit. Jack Monroe’s book tin can cook has great recipes using tinned food. 

EssexHebridean

pelirocco said:

EssexHebridean said:

Novice_investor101 said:

I tend to buy veg frozen as it keeps for a lot longer than fresh, but tinned potatoes, sweetcorn, tinned peas & carrots are ok. I eat them when camping. Tinned toms, garlic paste, tomato puree & a tin of tomatoes makes a simple pasta sauce. Then there’s the good, old favourite of soups. 

Also, some tinned “meals” are actually without chemical ingredients, like Tesco’s tinned curries. 

They're not, you know - I just bet that amongst other ingredients you'll find those curries contain sodium chloride, dihydrogen monoxide, and no doubt countless other "terrifying sounding" ingredients... 

We really need to stop this demonising of chemicals (not specifically suggest that you were intending to Novice Investor - but there is an awful lot of it about.) EVERYTHING in the world is chemicals, sure, there are some you wouldn't want to eat, but generally speaking if you find those in food something has gone very wrong indeed.  Other common demonising around food - "good" and "bad" - food shouldn't have a moral value, some foods might "go bad" but they rarely naturally start off that way, and "processed" - so often portrayed as a shocking thing - but some processed food is wonderful - washing the earth off tatties is processing, as is cracking an egg, or cutting up a lettuce, making milk into cheese...  so not all processing is in any way bad! Some Ultra processed foods tend towards having less nutritional density than less processed alternatives - but even those have their place in a healthy balanced diet. 

In answer to the question - I seem to recall it's repeatedly been proved that both frozen and tinned vegetables in particular can actually be higher in nutrients than fresh. There is also the question that for some people access to "fresh" food isn't easy - and if you live for example in an area without a large supermarket anywhere walking distance away, you have no car and no money spare for bus fares, then a "quick-stop" type shop might be your only practical option for food purchases. In many cases the "fresh" options in those shops can be anything but - so having a supply of tinned of frozen items can make the difference between a more nutritionally dense diet, and the alternative. 

Our tinned food cupboard is always well stocked with, among other things:
Soups, Tuna, Sardines, Chopped toms, various different beans and pulses, tinned sweetcorn, tinned fruit....(And don't even get me started on the ludicrous arguments suggesting that fruit is unhealthy because - gasp - it contains sugar.)

Actually  if you are a diabetic  fruit is classed  as unhealthy ,
Just because it grows " naturally " doesn't make it healthy

I'm well aware of the appeal to nature fallacy - and I didn't use it. 

As for fruit - I'm inclined to believe the British Diabetic Association I think, they seem to know their stuff pretty well... https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/enjoy-food/eating-with-diabetes/what-is-a-healthy-balanced-diet#fruit%20and%20veg