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Parking and Property Management vs Mr Greenblatt (case dismissed AGAIN, costs ordered)
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Grizebeck said:patient_dream said:DownwithPPCs said:Hi all,
Claimant's rep was a moron who just kept repeating himself and arguing that I wasn't a leaseholder even though lease clearly gives rights to visitors of leaseholders.
Most of these so called legal reps are morons ...... which legal was the head honcho instructing THE moron ?
Whatever floats their boat ?
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Thanks for making these posts, these parking companies really are unreal. I have come across a similar situation on one occasion (not myself, someone who asked me for advice as I'm in the property business), referred them to the lease as being their best hope. Unfortunately on that occasion they paid up before taking it further due to bullying letters received from one of these companies.3
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Right so over next few days work out how you are going to approch the two laymen and make it the first port of call
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alt80 said:Thanks for making these posts, these parking companies really are unreal. I have come across a similar situation on one occasion (not myself, someone who asked me for advice as I'm in the property business), referred them to the lease as being their best hope. Unfortunately on that occasion they paid up before taking it further due to bullying letters received from one of these companies.3
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Just a thought but the two chaps who employ the PPC may not be able to get out of the parking contract early without it costing them a lot of money.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks2 -
Fruitcake said:Just a thought but the two chaps who employ the PPC may not be able to get out of the parking contract early without it costing them a lot of money.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.0 -
Grizebeck said:Right so over next few days work out how you are going to approch the two laymen and make it the first port of call0
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Half_way said:Grizebeck said:DownwithPPCs said:Thanks guys. @Grizebeck do you think it's worth asking for a sit-down with the MA (they are two laymen who set up the RMA, but I have suspicions they are getting underhand payments from the PPC.) They have refused to help so far. I can threaten them with the injunction unless they sack the parking company immediately? Or just go straight for the jugular with the injunction? I thought the injunction would only work against the PPC as they are the ones pursuing me, not the MA, even though it's the MA behind the scenes making the orders. They hide behind the PPC and their cowboy solicitor firms.
I would (yes its a white lie), tell them you are going to seek an injunction against them and their "agents" and upon being granted the injunction, you will get a costs order against them (the MA) and they will be personally liable for all costs incurred.
I should add there is no right to costs for an injunction but i very much doubt they would know this, so its really a case of seeing if they will be worried about being exposed to costs and a result will then act in your interests
And think about what your asking them to do, sacking the parking firm really isn't going to cut it or be a realistic objectiveAs above, and as for thisHOWEVER, I still can't park in my mother's development, because I will still get ticketed, and even if I get the injunction order, if the MA change the Parking company the injunction becomes moot
The ones you must go for are the management company.If the lease says you can park there then you can park there.
keep on parking in the spot to which you are entitled to do so.
As you have found out the management company will just swap out one PPC for another, like a discarded foul nappy.
Parking companies do what parking companies do and the managemetn company should have carried out due diligence and avoided anything linked to the BPA or IPC . As principal the managemetn company will also be jointly and severally liable for the actions of its agents
The fact that they know they are on bad ground, and should be aware of the court cases puts them in the position that they could be held liable for a GDPR claim
I will go after the MA, that way we might be able to rid the development of these vile cockroaches.3 -
patient_dream said:alt80 said:Thanks for making these posts, these parking companies really are unreal. I have come across a similar situation on one occasion (not myself, someone who asked me for advice as I'm in the property business), referred them to the lease as being their best hope. Unfortunately on that occasion they paid up before taking it further due to bullying letters received from one of these companies.0
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Hi all,
just wanted to update people and ask for advice on how to proceed with the situation I now find myself in.
After winning two court cases against PPM, I told the director of the management company that if he did not meet with me to discuss how to improve parking on the development, I would proceed with an injunction against him and his agents. @Grizebeck kindly offered to help with the injunction.
The director agreed to meet with me, which he did via zoom with his solicitor present. The second director, who I think is kept mostly out of the picture, was not present and they asked if we could record the meeting to show him after, or we could adjourn the meeting to a later date. I have nothing to hide and wanted to move the issue forwards so agreed. On reflection, probably not the smartest move as this director does seem to be a snake. The solicitor sent me a link to the recording so I have it also.
I discussed what is wrong and unfair about the current parking control and suggested some improvements, for example grace periods when stopping outside people's flats, which there are currently none. I also showed him a register I had taken when canvassing the development, which currently sits at 100% agreement that the current parking control is unfair and needs an overhaul. He acted like he had no idea what was going on with the parking company and their behaviour. He seemed to have no idea about my court cases. I told him he had lost control. He denied things that were said about him by the other managing agent he instructs, so he is either a lying snake or a fool. I believe its the former. He refused to answer when i queried him on his contractual commitments to the parking company.
The director said he would go away and come back with a response. A few weeks later he came back to me and pretty much said he is not going to change or do anything, going back on what he said in the meeting. He also said that the parking company have put in an appeal, and that he would only discuss my case after the appeal was dealt with. This letter was the first correspondence that didnt come from his solicitor, instead coming directly from himself, so i did find that odd, dont know if there is anything in that.
I called the court to confirm the appeal, and the parking company have indeed put in an appeal. They also appealed during the actual hearing and the judge refused, so I am hoping they will just refuse it again. Massive backlogs through the courts at the moment so not sure when that will be dealt with, I have not even received my case dismissed confirmation letter yet and its been quite a while since that. I don't know if they've simply put in that appeal as they know I'm going ahead with the injunction.
@Grizebeck has advised that I cannot proceed with the injunction until the appeal is dealt with.
Originally i was advised to pursue an injunction against the director and his agents in my mother's name, but im wondering whether i should open an injunction solely against the parking company in my name to protect myself as they have already been allowed multiple bites of the cherry against me.
Also, should I ask the director's solicitor to delete the recording?
I still cant park on my mother's development and upon hearing the horror stories when canvassing the resident's I can tell you that the parking company are still successfully stealing thousands of pounds from the residents.
Many thanks guys.0
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