Ripping software

MouldyOldDough

WMP appears to do a good enough job -  MP3 at 320Kbps

Not as good as the original CD (1411Kbps) but most peoples ears cannot detect the difference !

MouldyOldDough

Neil_Jones said:

wongataa said:

Neil_Jones said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Thanks all - I did eventually get WMP to rip the CD's

next question - which company offers the best ,money for buying them ?

Music magpie offers me between 50p and 1p (not joking)

Technically speaking you don't have the right to rip your CDs and DVDs or make copies of them.  You're supposed to buy another (digital) copy and separate copies for use in the car or whatever.  But of course what you're supposed to do and what you actually do are two entirely diffferent things.

That used to be the case but now you are allowed to make a copy for your own use so long as you retain the original.  Of course whether anyone would get in trouble if the copied their CDs and then got rid of them is questionable.

Actually no you're not.  You were for about seven months but the High Court put paid to that:

https://www.copyrightuser.org/understand/exceptions/private-copying/ - "following a judicial review filed against the UK government, in July 2015 the High Court quashed the regulations introducing the exception [re: private copying]. As a result, the private copying exception is no longer part of UK copyright law,"

AFAIK this is still the case.  But yes, you're quite unlikely to get "caught", because its one of those things that's questionable as to whether its worth pursuing as a "crime" as such.  Maybe for some "ringleader" type operation on a painfully massive scale, but for a single Joe Bloggs?  Unlikely.

So how does Youtube get away with it ?

The chances of a "KNOCK ON THE DOOR" is less than zero !

Neil_Jones

MouldyOldDough said:

Neil_Jones said:

wongataa said:

Neil_Jones said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Thanks all - I did eventually get WMP to rip the CD's

next question - which company offers the best ,money for buying them ?

Music magpie offers me between 50p and 1p (not joking)

Technically speaking you don't have the right to rip your CDs and DVDs or make copies of them.  You're supposed to buy another (digital) copy and separate copies for use in the car or whatever.  But of course what you're supposed to do and what you actually do are two entirely diffferent things.

That used to be the case but now you are allowed to make a copy for your own use so long as you retain the original.  Of course whether anyone would get in trouble if the copied their CDs and then got rid of them is questionable.

Actually no you're not.  You were for about seven months but the High Court put paid to that:

https://www.copyrightuser.org/understand/exceptions/private-copying/ - "following a judicial review filed against the UK government, in July 2015 the High Court quashed the regulations introducing the exception [re: private copying]. As a result, the private copying exception is no longer part of UK copyright law,"

AFAIK this is still the case.  But yes, you're quite unlikely to get "caught", because its one of those things that's questionable as to whether its worth pursuing as a "crime" as such.  Maybe for some "ringleader" type operation on a painfully massive scale, but for a single Joe Bloggs?  Unlikely.

So how does Youtube get away with it ?

The chances of a "KNOCK ON THE DOOR" is less than zero !

YouTube doesn't because they have tools and techniques in place to deter it, and then copyright holders can submit claims manually for stuff that was missed, plus the user base is ultimately responsible, not the hosting provider.  The worse that can happen is you lose your account/subscribers/view count/comments/base (and maybe more serious if you were doing something inappropriate)

See youtube.com/howyoutubeworks/policies/copyright/

Because YouTube receives a lot of content (720k hours per day!) so they can't review it in real time, so its all primarily automated.

A lot depends on the content.  If its a high profile and more modern commercial TV programme/film then more likely to get flagged and blocked and have a copyright strike stuck on your account.  Something older uploaded in potatovision and is only a short clip you can probably get away with.  Less exciting stuff like idents, trailers, old adverts, continuity that nobody gives a monkeys about and couldn't possibly generate any income... yeah fine do what you like.

In any event YouTube will by default follow the US trend of Fair Use, which we don't have in this country as such.  You can make copies for your own private use in the US, but as I said above that exception doesn't exist over here and never has done (save for a seven month period).

MouldyOldDough

Neil_Jones said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Neil_Jones said:

wongataa said:

Neil_Jones said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Thanks all - I did eventually get WMP to rip the CD's

next question - which company offers the best ,money for buying them ?

Music magpie offers me between 50p and 1p (not joking)

Technically speaking you don't have the right to rip your CDs and DVDs or make copies of them.  You're supposed to buy another (digital) copy and separate copies for use in the car or whatever.  But of course what you're supposed to do and what you actually do are two entirely diffferent things.

That used to be the case but now you are allowed to make a copy for your own use so long as you retain the original.  Of course whether anyone would get in trouble if the copied their CDs and then got rid of them is questionable.

Actually no you're not.  You were for about seven months but the High Court put paid to that:

https://www.copyrightuser.org/understand/exceptions/private-copying/ - "following a judicial review filed against the UK government, in July 2015 the High Court quashed the regulations introducing the exception [re: private copying]. As a result, the private copying exception is no longer part of UK copyright law,"

AFAIK this is still the case.  But yes, you're quite unlikely to get "caught", because its one of those things that's questionable as to whether its worth pursuing as a "crime" as such.  Maybe for some "ringleader" type operation on a painfully massive scale, but for a single Joe Bloggs?  Unlikely.

So how does Youtube get away with it ?

The chances of a "KNOCK ON THE DOOR" is less than zero !

YouTube doesn't because they have tools and techniques in place to deter it, and then copyright holders can submit claims manually for stuff that was missed, plus the user base is ultimately responsible, not the hosting provider.  The worse that can happen is you lose your account/subscribers/view count/comments/base (and maybe more serious if you were doing something inappropriate)

See youtube.com/howyoutubeworks/policies/copyright/

Because YouTube receives a lot of content (720k hours per day!) so they can't review it in real time, so its all primarily automated.

A lot depends on the content.  If its a high profile and more modern commercial TV programme/film then more likely to get flagged and blocked and have a copyright strike stuck on your account.  Something older uploaded in potatovision and is only a short clip you can probably get away with.  Less exciting stuff like idents, trailers, old adverts, continuity that nobody gives a monkeys about and couldn't possibly generate any income... yeah fine do what you like.

In any event YouTube will by default follow the US trend of Fair Use, which we don't have in this country as such.  You can make copies for your own private use in the US, but as I said above that exception doesn't exist over here and never has done (save for a seven month period).

How many people have been fined in the UK for misappropriating media ?

MouldyOldDough

I have found the answer

Has anyone been prosecuted for downloading movies UK?

Nobody has ever been prosecuted for downloading or streaming movies illegally in the UK – yet. This is probably because the illegal streaming and downloading of movies by end-users is simply too widespread for film copyright owners and organisations representing them to track

So - I am guessing that MP3's / Music are the same !

And sure enough

Could you be fined for converting a Youtube video to MP3?

Again it is legal to download a converted Youtube video to MP3, it is just against their Terms of Service. 

The practice is only illegal if it is a song under copyright law, in which case there is a chance you could be fined. 

No one has yet been hunted down by Youtube or any production company yet, but the ongoing discussion of the music industry and illegal downloads means that this debate will likely soon come to an end.

MouldyOldDough

OK Have used my Android phone to create a Music Magpie account and have scanned in over 80 barcodes - but when I try accessing that same account using Windows - nothing appears on the selling list !

Why would that be ?

B0bbyEwing

Movies - 

For DVDs & blu ray I've always used MakeMKV. 

Music - 

I've dabbled with EAC (Exact Audio Copy) in the past but not enough to know it well.
dBPoweramp is another.