EDF have upped our monthly DD to £860, equivalent to £10,300 per year for our 3 bedroom semi

Leon_W

I *think* the gas reading of 3724 has just come from the meter.  To convert to Kwh is 3274 X 11.2 = 41,708kwh

Which, is indeed, a shedload of gas for a 3 bed semi !

QrizB

Deleted_User said:

3724 m3 would be over 40000kWh - massive, but possible.

7000 kWh/yr of electricity plus 40000 kWh/yr of gas would be roughly £6800/yr, £570/month.

The OP's new DD of £850/month suggests they are already in arrears and/or EDF are expecting them to be at or near zero balance when their next review comes around in 6 months.

ariarnia

[Deleted User] said:

3724 kWh is possible but wouldn’t seem to match the prices being talked about.

3724 m3 would be over 40000kWh - massive, but possible.

 You seem like a huge consumer of energy!

could be worse. could be ft. 

mroshaw

Thank you again, everyone, for the really helpful comments and feedback!

My takeaway so far is that I really need to get my facts straight! We have definitely made some assumptions, across the meter reads, and consumption, that are likely entirely incorrect on our part. For example, and I need to confirm with the missus when she gets back, I think those were indeed the meter readings, and we've incorrectly assumed they were KWh. As some of you have stated, if the conversion is correct, it appears we may well actually using an absolute shedload of gas! As to why that might be, given we literally only have a single, relatively new, boiler on a timer, that might be an entirely different story.

I'm definitely beginning to believe that EDF is not out to get us, that's for sure, and that they may be simply using the data they have at hand to predict our future costs.

So, my next actions will most certainly be to collate what we know, avoid assumptions, and see where we land. And we are absolutely going to take regular meter readings from now on, and are trying to get on the waiting list for a smart meter!

ariarnia

once you work out your actual usage then the clever people on here will have some suggestions for tracking down where it's going (testing for leaks and faulty meters and gas guzzlers. that kind of thing). 

BobT36

"They don't look particularly ludicrous." 
Are you joking mate? £850 is my entire rent! (3 bed semi).
My energy bills are only just over £100 a month (used, not DD). Octopus SVT. Then again I only use 10 units of gas a month, and some people have their heating on full blast all day, every day. (I switch mine on / off manually. Try that rather than a timer. Also no need to tumble dry every load of washing. I only use mine 1.5h for towels once a week).

I'm a family of two though, but still adding 2 more shouldn't increase my usage by over 8x.. 

dunstonh

"They don't look particularly ludicrous." 
Are you joking mate? £850 is my entire rent! (3 bed semi).

If the OP is in arrears with their use (as many people do get by not paying enough to begin with and having to catch up) and the heating is up high then they could easily be at that figure.

hence, not ludicrus.

My energy bills are only just over £100 a month (used, not DD). Octopus SVT. Then again I only use 10 units of gas a month, and some people have their heating on full blast all day, every day. (I switch mine on / off manually. Try that rather than a timer. Also no need to tumble dry every load of washing. I only use mine 1.5h for towels once a week).


I'm a family of two though, but still adding 2 more shouldn't increase my usage by over 8x.. 

We know the real meter readings indicate the electric use is 20kWh per day.  That is 2-3 times the normal for someone with non-electric heating but electric cooker.   And about 3-4 times the level if the cooker is gas as well.

Your level of use may not be typical.  Their level of use may not be typical.  The electricity use certainly suggests it not that efficient.

[Deleted User]

BobT36 said:

"They don't look particularly ludicrous." 
Are you joking mate? £850 is my entire rent! (3 bed semi).
My energy bills are only just over £100 a month (used, not DD). Octopus SVT. Then again I only use 10 units of gas a month, and some people have their heating on full blast all day, every day. (I switch mine on / off manually. Try that rather than a timer. Also no need to tumble dry every load of washing. I only use mine 1.5h for towels once a week).

I'm a family of two though, but still adding 2 more shouldn't increase my usage by over 8x.. 

They don’t look ludicrous as in “they are possible”

As you say, you don’t use a lot, but that doesn’t mean there might not be people who use a lot more.

RelievedSheff

40,000kWh of gas!!

Blimey what are you heating?

7000kWh of electric is also a massive amount.

Are you powering a whole street!!!!

TheGardener

OP - if you have the time, settle yourself down and read this epic thread from a couple of weeks ago. You may find it helpful.
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