Company relocating office

Dakta

As above, nothing wrong with working solely for your own benefit, just understand the business will be run for its own and this looks like it's a business not you thing.

They most likely have factored in the risk of losing some people in the proces and found that risk acceptable.

lincroft1710

Dakta said:

They most likely have factored in the risk of losing some people in the proces and found that risk acceptable.

Who knows, maybe they moved in the hope of losing some people!

Dakta

Haha the thought did occur

Ditzy_Mitzy

Are you absolutely certain about the extra driving time, OP?  Looking back at what you initially wrote, comparing best case scenario with the new commute and worst case with the old leads to an addition of only five minutes to the time (one way).  That is negligible.  How often, on the present run, do you get best case and how often do you get worst case?  More to the point, what are the conditions like with the new commute?  There really can't be much difference in terms of mileage if we're talking ten or fifteen minutes total added time.

lisyloo

It said 15-20 mins each way ??

it’s not massive but people have different threshold and commitments.

MEM62

caprikid1 said:

I think you can effectively force redundancy if you could prove the new location cannot work without any additional flexibility. 

That will not be the case.  The move will not be considered far enough. 

Jude57

Just to throw into the debate the fact that DWP say a 90 minute commute each way is reasonable. Certainly, those who work in London but can't afford to live there have very lengthy commutes, and anyone working in a city centre is unlikely to have free parking these days.

I used to have a five minute commute by car along quiet roads, three minutes if the traffic light (singular) was against me. Then I had to move to a city that meant a 50 minute commute each way, but to get that time at the end of the day was difficult because it meant leaving work on the dot, otherwise I'd be stuck in rush hour traffic at the 'home' end of the commute. Add in never ending roadworks and my journey home could be up to an hour and a half. I stuck it for a year but in the end I was glad to get a job closer to home where I could use public transport.

Everyone has a good reason for not wanting a long commute or overtime or extra shifts. The bottom line is that those reasons are irrelevant to the employer, who just wants the work done.

thebrexitunicorn

MEM62 said:

caprikid1 said:

I think you can effectively force redundancy if you could prove the new location cannot work without any additional flexibility. 

That will not be the case.  The move will not be considered far enough. 

It’s not that clear cut.  If an individual simply doesn’t have the additional time and there isn’t flexibility from the employer (eg home working, flexibility on hours) then it could be a redundancy situation.  What is reasonable for one person may not be for another, due to personal circumstances (often caring responsibilities).   Whether it’s possible or reasonable for the OP I don’t know. 

55ryan

This reminds me of a job I had regarding the time getting to work. Logically the job I had should have taken 25 minutes, but due to part motorway driving and constant issues there, it varied from 25 minutes to 2.5 hours. Late several times. Everyone coming from my direction got caught too. In the end the job didn't work out, but I heard they only employed people who were living locally eventually.  

Someone mentioned the DWP 90 minute ruling. A relative on UC was told that that it doesn't include traffic. So it is quite possible you would be expected to be spending 4 hours there and back on minimum wage putting cherries onto cup cakes.  

Ath_Wat

thebrexitunicorn said:

MEM62 said:

caprikid1 said:

I think you can effectively force redundancy if you could prove the new location cannot work without any additional flexibility. 

That will not be the case.  The move will not be considered far enough. 

It’s not that clear cut.  If an individual simply doesn’t have the additional time and there isn’t flexibility from the employer (eg home working, flexibility on hours) then it could be a redundancy situation.  What is reasonable for one person may not be for another, due to personal circumstances (often caring responsibilities).   Whether it’s possible or reasonable for the OP I don’t know. 

Where does this come from?  By that logic any change, however tiny, could be regarded as a redundancy situation and I am pretty sure that is not the case.