stocks vs shares

teetea

Anyone know the difference please?

cloud_dog

You may find it is just a colloquial language thing, e.g. the US refers to stocks, whilst in the UK we tend(ed) to refer to shares.  This was before all the youngsters started reading US based financial information ☺️

teetea

cloud_dog said:

You may find it is just a colloquial language thing, e.g. the US refers to stocks, whilst in the UK we tend(ed) to refer to shares.  This was before all the youngsters started reading US based financial information ☺️

I hope you are right and its is as simple as that but; As I read

The primary difference between shares and stocks is specificity. The term stocks is typically used as a general reference to the equities markets and related products. On the other hand, shares is frequently utilised as a unit of measure.

So dose this mean that stocks have no ownership to any company and are no more then hearsay bets on the market just like in a casino?

wmb194

A stockmarket is a place where financial securities are traded and so stocks can be equities and bonds. Government bonds are sometimes referred to as 'government stock', indeed the official name for many gilts* is "Treasury stock."

So, "stocks and shares" probably originally referred to, 'government and corporate bonds and company shares.' 

"So dose (sic) this mean that stocks have no ownership to any company and are no more then hearsay bets on the market just like in a casino?"

I love how you jumped to the conspiracy theory... The answer is, no.

*'gilt' is actually a nickname.

ChesterDog

You own ten shares in Shell and ten in National Grid.

That means you own shares in two stocks, or simply that you own two stocks. 

wmb194

ChesterDog said:

You own ten shares in Shell and ten in National Grid.

That means you own shares in two stocks, or simply that you own two stocks. 

Or do you own shares in two companies? Or is it stocks in two companies? Heh heh, it doesn't really matter.

teetea

wmb194 said:

A stockmarket is a place where financial securities are traded and so stocks can be equities and bonds. Government bonds are sometimes referred to as 'government stock', indeed the official name for many gilts* is "Treasury stock."

So, "stocks and shares" probably originally referred to, 'government and corporate bonds and company shares.' 

"So dose (sic) this mean that stocks have no ownership to any company and are no more then hearsay bets on the market just like in a casino?"

I love how you jumped to the conspiracy theory... The answer is, no.

*'gilt' is actually a nickname.

I am quite confused about these bonds

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/premium-bonds/

If you where to own bonds then do you buy them on the London Stock Exchange? Can you buy goverment bonds too?

eskbanker

teetea said:

I am quite confused about these bonds

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/premium-bonds/

If you where to own bonds then do you buy them on the London Stock Exchange? Can you buy goverment bonds too?

The word 'bond' is unhelpfully ambiguous, and is often used for fixed-term savings accounts, while Premium Bonds are an entirely different concept, explained in that article.

The reference to bonds in the post before yours was again unrelated to these usages, and relates to government and/or corporate bonds - if you're thinking about these then there are many issues to address long before reaching the point of 'where do I buy them', so best to continue your research considerably further by spending much more time reading than firing out loads of questions about the basics....

masonic

Six posts and no mention of the Wisdom Tree or Our National Hero yet. Impressive!

teetea

eskbanker said:

The reference to bonds in the post before yours was again unrelated to these usages, and relates to government and/or corporate bonds - if you're thinking about these then there are many issues to address long before reaching the point of 'where do I buy them', so best to continue your research considerably further by spending much more time reading than firing out loads of questions about the basics....

But they are really complicated and confusing. So can you buy goverment bonds?

Can you issue bonds out of a trust account?

teetea

masonic said:

Six posts and no mention of the Wisdom Tree or Our National Hero yet. Impressive!

patience my dear brother, patience! persides Friday night is not a good night when a lot of people go out for food and drink and things