To sell at this point?

Herzlos

The later you leave it, the more people will be selling cars too.

Also, the run up to winter is usually the best time to sell 4 wheel drive vehicles, so the next month or 2 are probably the sweet spot for selling.

Grumpy_chap

baser999 said:

Although there was ‘consultation’ about the ULEZ expansion it’s difficult to see, given the huge amount of money it generates, that Khan will not go ahead with it. That leads me back to my initial query - should we be thinking about changing the car now or later?

Yes, this "consultation" does seem to have been a bit of a cover - I can't actually find that the consultation outcomes on the TFL / London websites.  Nor can I see that any actual decision has been announced following the consultation closing.  There does need to be a conclusion quickly as the proposed date for the expansion is less than a year away and it does not give time for people to sell their cars, buy new etc.  Especially given the shortage of supply and price challenges for newer vehicles right now - it really makes it a doubly bad time to introduce such a change.

As to the original question - everyone's position is different, but we have put our car up for sale now, solely because of the future ULEZ issues.

baser999

baser999 said:

Although there was ‘consultation’ about the ULEZ expansion it’s difficult to see, given the huge amount of money it generates, that Khan will not go ahead with it. That leads me back to my initial query - should we be thinking about changing the car now or later?

Yes, this "consultation" does seem to have been a bit of a cover - I can't actually find that the consultation outcomes on the TFL / London websites.  Nor can I see that any actual decision has been announced following the consultation closing.  There does need to be a conclusion quickly as the proposed date for the expansion is less than a year away and it does not give time for people to sell their cars, buy new etc.  Especially given the shortage of supply and price challenges for newer vehicles right now - it really makes it a doubly bad time to introduce such a change.

As to the original question - everyone's position is different, but we have put our car up for sale now, solely because of the future ULEZ issues.

I recall completing a survey about the planned expansion - not sure if it was sent to me by way of leaflet drop or email, or whether I went on line and found it. All seems academic really, so much money is being made by way of charges and penalties why wouldn’t it be extended? As for giving people time to trade up, that’ll not concern him either. I heard of many people who simply couldn’t afford to trade their car so were either subjected to the daily charge, had to take to public transport or simply had to change jobs

Ditzy_Mitzy

You live in London; sell the Land Rover and buy a ULEZ compliant medium sized petrol car.  My old Focus is compliant and is a damn sight cheaper to run than a four by four and, whilst lacking all-terrain capabilities, can handle any surface one may wish to drive on in the smoke.  



'Let's off-road!' 
'Erm sorry mate, we can't.  They've concreted over the last bit of waste-ground in Hammersmith and built a Tesco's'  
'Let's on-road!'  
'That's better; Ford or Vauxhall'  

baser999

Having mobility issues an SUV or similar-sized car is needed. Would be all day getting into and out of a conventional saloon

Ditzy_Mitzy

baser999 said:

Having mobility issues an SUV or similar-sized car is needed. Would be all day getting into and out of a conventional saloon

People carrier then: nice high driving position and comfy captain's chairs in some.  

Grumpy_chap

baser999 said:

 As for giving people time to trade up, that’ll not concern him either. 

Well, the civil service documents shared within the detail of the consultation did state that the minimum notice period from decision announcement to implementation had to be two years, based upon the average time of owning a car and to give people time to choose a compliant car within the normal vehicle change cycle.

The decision does not yet seem to have been formally announced / confirmed, yet the start date is potentially late summer 2023.  That is a lot less than 2 years.

All more indication that the consultation was only a cover and will be ignored if not yielding a favourable outcome - such acts are an affront to democracy.