Spring Parking

KeithP

34LH89 said:

Quick question - if under the 'debt recovery' tab on the BPA website the company is listed as'no', does that mean they can't chase fake PCN debts?

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/bpa-approved-operators

That's really a question for the BPA isn't it?
No-one here can state for sure what that ambiguous column means.

34LH89

KeithP said:

34LH89 said:

Quick question - if under the 'debt recovery' tab on the BPA website the company is listed as'no', does that mean they can't chase fake PCN debts?

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/bpa-approved-operators

That's really a question for the BPA isn't it?
No-one here can state for sure what that ambiguous column means.

fair enough - I wasn't sure if it was something we collectively knew.

i'll email them and see what they say.

Umkomaas

34LH89 said:

Quick question - if under the 'debt recovery' tab on the BPA website the company is listed as'no', does that mean they can't chase fake PCN debts?

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/bpa-approved-operators

Ignore the 'Yes' and 'No' tabs, they are pretty meaningless.  Most PPCs just farm out their 'debts' to a debt recovery agent, regardless of what it says in the tab.

Fruitcake

I think the Debt Recovery column just means whether or not they do their own in house "debt" chasing.

Some BPA members carry out debt recovery activities but are not PPCs.
Some BPA members carry out parking activities but not debt collection.
Some BPA members carry out parking activities and debt recovery.

34LH89

that makes sense, thanks for clarifying. Seemed an easy way out if they weren't allowed to recover "debts"

34LH89

Appeal rejected with Spring, so on to the POPLA stage.

Seems to be a template reply, as it says "we have considered everything including any evidence enclosed", which I'm sure they just send to everyone.

95Rollers

34LH89 said:

Appeal rejected with Spring, so on to the POPLA stage.

Seems to be a template reply, as it says "we have considered everything including any evidence enclosed", which I'm sure they just send to everyone.

To be fair a shoddy operation like this will always "win" especially when they are Judge and Jury in their one man kangaroo court running from a low-rent office in a shabby business centre. There already spent out £2.50 getting your details from the DVLA, paid for postage and printing so they'll want to make a profit on what they've paid out so they can pass the breakeven point on their ATA subs into a profit. 

Also were you not unloading if you were dropping off at the charity shop (and if your anything like me when I go dropping off - often end up buying something which will have to be loaded).

So loading/ unloading isn't parking which you can clearly evidence. Again don't expect miracles at Popla as they are not independent and their decision isn't legally binding. They are owned by the BPA whose priorities are their customers which are the PPCs - they need to let the PPC win lots or the PPC will p*ss off to the other ATA costing them revenue loss. 

34LH89

Thanks 95Rollers.

Quick question, I've only received the decline email, I haven't received a NTK.

I think I'm right in saying they have effectively 56 days to send it, however I have to appeal to POPLA 28 days from the appeal decline, which takes me to just before.

Can I appeal on no NTK if they're still technically within timeframe to send it?

Also if POPLA isn't legally binding, why do they care the outcome?

Trainerman

As @95Rollers said, PoPLA are not truly independent, nor are you obliged to accept their assessment. However, the PPC ARE obliged to comply. So, if PoPLA rule against the PPC it can go no further and you have won.

Which is why, as said, they bend over backwards to help the PPC and keep the revenue stream going, IMHO

Coupon-mad

however I have to appeal to POPLA 28 days from the appeal decline.

Nope, forget that.

POPLA Codes last until day 33, trust us.