Is this a ‘threat’ to make me go over to the dark side to a Smart Meter?

QrizB

SnakePlissken said:

As I said its not for me, but if others want to use it go for it.

Eventually (2025?) you won't have a choice, smart meters will be mandatory.

brewerdave

QrizB said:

SnakePlissken said:

As I said its not for me, but if others want to use it go for it.

Eventually (2025?) you won't have a choice, smart meters will be mandatory.

If they ever sort out supply/fitting issues  

SnakePlissken

QrizB said:

SnakePlissken said:

As I said its not for me, but if others want to use it go for it.

Eventually (2025?) you won't have a choice, smart meters will be mandatory.

We will see, ofgem sat currently opt outs are allowed.

I don’t have a smart meter - can I refuse to have one installed?
You can refuse to have a smart meter installed in your home if you do not want one. However, choosing not to have a smart meter will mean you will miss out on many benefits.

https://www.ombudsman-services.org/faqs/energy-sector-faqs#:~:text=You can refuse to have,based on estimated meter readings.

[Deleted User]

Smart meters are indeed voluntary. You can opt out UNLESS your meter is deemed by the supplier to be end-of-life. In EOL situations, BEIS has said that suppliers can fit a smart meter WITHOUT the homeowner’s permission. They can also get a Warrant of Entry to do so if the meter is located within the property. This right is enshrined in The Gas and Electricity Acts.

Whether it happens in 2025 or later is a debatable point. What is not in doubt is that the rollout of smart meters will continue with, or without, the home occupier’s approval.

 

QrizB

SnakePlissken said:

QrizB said:

SnakePlissken said:

As I said its not for me, but if others want to use it go for it.

Eventually (2025?) you won't have a choice, smart meters will be mandatory.

We will see, ofgem sat currently opt outs are allowed.

Ofgem have also set a binding target for all non-smart meters to have been replaced by the end of 2025:

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/energy-policy-and-regulation/policy-and-regulatory-programmes/smart-meter-transition-and-data-communications-company-dcc

From January 2022 all gas and electricity suppliers will have binding annual installation targets to roll out smart and advanced meters to their remaining non-smart customers by the end of 2025.

[Deleted User]

QrizB said:

SnakePlissken said:

QrizB said:

SnakePlissken said:

As I said its not for me, but if others want to use it go for it.

Eventually (2025?) you won't have a choice, smart meters will be mandatory.

We will see, ofgem sat currently opt outs are allowed.

Ofgem have also set a binding target for all non-smart meters to have been replaced by the end of 2025:

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/energy-policy-and-regulation/policy-and-regulatory-programmes/smart-meter-transition-and-data-communications-company-dcc

From January 2022 all gas and electricity suppliers will have binding annual installation targets to roll out smart and advanced meters to their remaining non-smart customers by the end of 2025.

Sadly, Ofgem has a habit of moving targets to the right. As I understand it, the chip shortage is giving suppliers problems getting enough smart meters to satisfy demand.

Recent evidence to the BEIS Committee:

"Many energy suppliers have suffered shortfalls in the deliveries of smart metering equipment as a result of smart metering device manufacturers being unable to secure sufficient volumes of semiconductor materials to meet demand. 

“The medium-term outlook for an improvement in the availability of semiconductor materials is highly uncertain, which could (if the current situation continues) result in some energy suppliers having to reduce the number of smart meter installations available to consumers as early as quarter 4 2022 / quarter 1 2023.”

glucas

I am with EDF on Economy 7 and have a non-smart meter plus a separate sealed clock with a 24-hr dial going round showing my switch times between cheap night rate and day rate. Is this a RTS system, and must I change by 31 March 24 to a smart meter - my message from EDF implies this?

Gerry1

No, it's just a simple motorised timeswitch not a radio teleswitch.

You won't be affected if the Radio 4 Long Wave signal no longer carries the RTS data.

MWT

glucas said:

I am with EDF on Economy 7 and have a non-smart meter plus a separate sealed clock with a 24-hr dial going round showing my switch times between cheap night rate and day rate.

Do pay attention to the clock though as they can drift considerably and as it is not an RTS system it has no way to self-correct...

Eventually mine was running at 80% of normal speed and randomly failing to switch between day/night rates at which point I got it replaced with a smart meter.

SAC2334

Bad advice by the " deleted user " to wrap the meter and hub in tin foil. That is classed as a  meter tamper.