Changing to LED bulbs

Floss

enkeltliv said:

There's nothing bizarre about the G24's. They're actually quite common but I can understand they would seem peculiar to an unadorned home user.

They're used to get the maximum beam of light. Some 180 degrees and some a full 360 degrees. 

I would think very carefully about swapping the fittings out, especially as the replacement LED bulbs come in at low wattage anyway. 

They may be "quite common" but in almost 40 years of home ownership I have never seen any until I moved into this house 3 years ago.

These are not an instant light and are quite dim compared to the 100w equivalent LEDs in the other ceiling fittings. It is also difficult to find acceptable, non-expensive shades to accommodate the long bulbs. 

enkeltliv

I'm quite surprised you find that, given their beam angle. This type of light provides illumination around the full circumference of the bulb. I take your point about their long appearance.

I wonder if you had considered an adaptor? It would negate needing to uninstall the fitting. I can't say I've seen a bayonet fitting but I do believe I've seen the Edison screw types.

I'm editing the post to let you know that I've had a little look. The adapters need electrical work anyway. I wish I could be of more help.

HonestJohn

Am I the only person who has had a led bulb fail? Bought a load a few years ago and looking at the expected life of them I thought I would never have to repalce another bulb. Sadly not.

YoungBlueEyes

I had queer bulbs in my last house. They had 3 prongs but in a drunken Y shape. When I was looking for more bulbs after one died, nobody had ever seen them before. I even took the dead bulb shopping with me so people could see what I was talking about.  Even electricians and handymen were stumped! 

I ended up changing the fittings. 

Floss

enkeltliv said:

I'm quite surprised you find that, given their beam angle. This type of light provides illumination around the full circumference of the bulb. I take your point about their long appearance.

As you can see they don't have a circumference but are long, just as I said.

enkeltliv

I'm afraid you're having difficulty understanding. I'm clearly not making myself understood. It is most probably better that you research for yourself. A search term you could use would be beam angle. That will help you understand what I an trying to convey about circumference in this instance.

However, the bulb in the picture looks like a first generation energy saving bulb. Is that correct? They're renowned for being slower to light with a harsh yet lower luminescence. If you have LEDs in the other fittings they will be different. They are completely different. It's not comparable. You can replace the G24 first gen energy saving bulb with LED bulbs. That should be your problem solved, should it not?

As an aside, in your very first post you asked "I've got low energy light bulbs in my home  all bought new when I moved in 3 years ago. Is it worth the outlay to buy LED equivalents and replace them all?"

Yet you say that the G24's are quite dim compared to the other LEDs in the other ceiling fittings. If you have LEDs in the other ceiling pendants already, why is it that you're asking is it worth the outlay to replace first generation energy saving bulbs with LEDs? You appear to already have them installed if you're comparing them to the G24 fitting.

I am hopeful that you can find the information and solutions that you seek. Do research beam angle. Professionals would help you better than I can. 

Floss said:

enkeltliv said:

There's nothing bizarre about the G24's. They're actually quite common but I can understand they would seem peculiar to an unadorned home user.

They're used to get the maximum beam of light. Some 180 degrees and some a full 360 degrees. 

I would think very carefully about swapping the fittings out, especially as the replacement LED bulbs come in at low wattage anyway. 

They may be "quite common" but in almost 40 years of home ownership I have never seen any until I moved into this house 3 years ago.

These are not an instant light and are quite dim compared to the 100w equivalent LEDs in the other ceiling fittings. It is also difficult to find acceptable, non-expensive shades to accommodate the long bulbs. 

KxMx

I bought LED bulbs for my flat and i've certainly thought about taking down what is already here, but with only 4 bulbs I think it wouldn't be worthwhile- too much waste, not enough savings- to change them before they need to.

Floss

enkeltliv said:

However, the bulb in the picture looks like a first generation energy saving bulb. Is that correct? They're renowned for being slower to light with a harsh yet lower luminescence. If you have LEDs in the other fittings they will be different. They are completely different. It's not comparable. You can replace the G24 first gen energy saving bulb with LED bulbs. That should be your problem solved, should it not?

No, as these 2 pendant fittings are for a G24 and will need to be replaced before I can put LED bulbs in.

As an aside, in your very first post you asked "I've got low energy light bulbs in my home  all bought new when I moved in 3 years ago. Is it worth the outlay to buy LED equivalents and replace them all?"

I have now bought LED bulbs for the other pendant fittings (and passed the fluoro bulbs to a friend for her new crisis accommodation) which have demonstrated how rubbish the first gen G24 are.

goldfinches

KxMx said:

I bought LED bulbs for my flat and i've certainly thought about taking down what is already here, but with only 4 bulbs I think it wouldn't be worthwhile- too much waste, not enough savings- to change them before they need to.

It depends on how much they are on for each day. As I said in my earlier reply on this thread I replaced the 6 bulbs I used the most and noticed an immediate reduction in the KWhours I consumed each day. I calculated at the time that I was saving at least 25p per day so it was definitely worth doing.

KxMx

I did test out usage on my LED outside light before I started using that overnight, I found my meter readings (roughly one at 8pm then one at 8am for 5 days in terms of units used) before I used the light to be the same as the readings when I was using the light.

I think i'm going to look at my weekly electricity costs for a month to take into account increased usage and increased costs, and then consider whether swapping bulbs will be worthwhile.

I'm satisfied it wouldn't be worth swapping in the kitchen, bedroom possibly, hall probably and living room definitely.