When are you putting the heating on this year and what temperature and general heating advice

Mstty

ariarnia said:

Mstty said:

ariarnia said:

Mstty said:

FreeBear said:

Mstty said:

mark_cycling00 said:

just to point out that:
- hot water temp less than 60 degrees creates a risk of getting legionnaires disease
- room temperature less than 14 degrees risks mould

True if you have a water tank in the loft but not with more modern systems where you can legionella burn once a week or less. Less than 250 cases a year I believe and most of those are from foreign travel. It really has been blown out of all proportion.

You should also caveat it doesn't apply to combi boiler a as well if you are going to advise people what to do?

If you have a hot water tank with a temperature maintained above 50°C for an hour or two, the Legionella bacteria will be killed. Above 60°C, it is minutes. BUT, this assumes you have a steady supply of the bacteria in your cold water tank in the first place. In reality, the risk is insignificant - There are plenty of other diseases circulating that you are at much higher risk of contracting, e.g. measles, mumps, or monkey pox.

I think monkey pox can be taken off the list for me🤔🤣

really? 

Current NHS guidance says that monkeypox can be passed from person to person through:

• Close physical contact with monkeypox blisters or scabs (including during sexual contact, kissing, cuddling or holding hands)
• Touching clothing, bedding or towels used by someone with monkeypox
• The coughs or sneezes of a person with monkeypox when they're close to you

https://fullfact.org/health/moneypox-child-cases/

Yep definitely the risk for me is much much lower than Legionella(this was the base for the start of this off shoot) based on that advice, info and the numbers in the UK, so can measles and mumps as I had them when younger. I hear shingles (pox) is making a comeback in adults though.

200 cases of legionella in the uk last year and half of those linked to foreign travel.

3300 cases of monkey pox in the uk last year.

the 'average' person has a significantly higher chance of catching monkey pox from close contact with an infected person than they do legionella from a domestic water supply. 

No arguements here about Legionella.

With regards to Monkey Pox you cannot say each member of the public is at equal risk and we know from our lifestyle we are a very minimal to zero risk.

If it's higher for you then fair enough I can only comment from our stand point.

Magnitio

Maybe the thread title should be changed to “what is the possibility of getting monkey pox”

ariarnia

Mstty said:

ariarnia said:

Mstty said:

ariarnia said:

Mstty said:

FreeBear said:

Mstty said:

mark_cycling00 said:

just to point out that:
- hot water temp less than 60 degrees creates a risk of getting legionnaires disease
- room temperature less than 14 degrees risks mould

True if you have a water tank in the loft but not with more modern systems where you can legionella burn once a week or less. Less than 250 cases a year I believe and most of those are from foreign travel. It really has been blown out of all proportion.

You should also caveat it doesn't apply to combi boiler a as well if you are going to advise people what to do?

If you have a hot water tank with a temperature maintained above 50°C for an hour or two, the Legionella bacteria will be killed. Above 60°C, it is minutes. BUT, this assumes you have a steady supply of the bacteria in your cold water tank in the first place. In reality, the risk is insignificant - There are plenty of other diseases circulating that you are at much higher risk of contracting, e.g. measles, mumps, or monkey pox.

I think monkey pox can be taken off the list for me🤔🤣

really? 

Current NHS guidance says that monkeypox can be passed from person to person through:

• Close physical contact with monkeypox blisters or scabs (including during sexual contact, kissing, cuddling or holding hands)
• Touching clothing, bedding or towels used by someone with monkeypox
• The coughs or sneezes of a person with monkeypox when they're close to you

https://fullfact.org/health/moneypox-child-cases/

Yep definitely the risk for me is much much lower than Legionella(this was the base for the start of this off shoot) based on that advice, info and the numbers in the UK, so can measles and mumps as I had them when younger. I hear shingles (pox) is making a comeback in adults though.

200 cases of legionella in the uk last year and half of those linked to foreign travel.

3300 cases of monkey pox in the uk last year.

the 'average' person has a significantly higher chance of catching monkey pox from close contact with an infected person than they do legionella from a domestic water supply. 

No arguements here about Legionella.

With regards to Monkey Pox you cannot say each member of the public is at equal risk and we know from our lifestyle we are a very minimal to zero risk.

If it's higher for you then fair enough I can only comment from our stand point.

lots of people think they are at lower risk than they are because many of the uk cases have been sexually transmitted so people think that's how it's transmitted. but that's as dangerous as people worrying too much about heating costs. more and more cases are community transmission via close contact (as people are in more close contact as we stop worrying about covid and aren't being as careful). 

ariarnia

Magnitio said:

Maybe the thread title should be changed to “what is the possibility of getting monkey pox”

sorry but its annoying how whenever anyone says they've turned the temp of their boiler down someone chimes in about legionella. the risk is tiny and really needs to be put into perspective of other relatively small risks that most people ignore every day. 

oldagetraveller1

Magnitio said:

Maybe the thread title should be changed to “what is the possibility of getting monkey pox”

Or the next one with which to "scare", Tomato Flu, Bird Flu etc..

I have my winter supply of coal all ready to go, nice and toasty house. Depending on how cold it is, there might be a need to boost using gas C.H..

Mstty

Magnitio said:

Maybe the thread title should be changed to “what is the possibility of getting monkey pox”

🤣🤣🤣 I'll get right on that post next.

And what is Truss going to do about it?

northernstar007

looking at the 1st few pages people are saying heating set 16-20... 
am i the only 1 that likes the house hot, ive got mine normally about 21-23 gas usage low 9500kw year on a low cost fix
i work it a freezing cold warehouse , and in the winter its the same as working outside, its not fun
so 30 mins before i finish work i set the heating away with hive, from 14c to 20c by the time i get in
and on from 5.45am till 7 on work days mon-fri
when u been freezing ya nuts off all day all you want to do is get home in the warmth 

Ally_E.

northernstar007 said:

looking at the 1st few pages people are saying heating set 16-20... 
am i the only 1 that likes the house hot, ive got mine normally about 21-23 gas usage low 9500kw year on a low cost fix
i work it a freezing cold warehouse , and in the winter its the same as working outside, its not fun
so 30 mins before i finish work i set the heating away with hive, from 14c to 20c by the time i get in
and on from 5.45am till 7 on work days mon-fri
when u been freezing ya nuts off all day all you want to do is get home in the warmth 

Plenty of people like it, myself included, I'd like it around 21-22 and maybe skip the jumper sometimes, but that would make my bills unaffordable. With the October price increase it will cost me £4,900 for energy and heat a year at 18.5C, but at 21C it will cost around £5,926. It's a £1,000 saving for putting a jumper, cosy socks and a blanket on (when needed). 

ariarnia

northernstar007 said:

looking at the 1st few pages people are saying heating set 16-20... 
am i the only 1 that likes the house hot, ive got mine normally about 21-23 gas usage low 9500kw year on a low cost fix

i'm not sure theres actually much difference. you heat the whole house to 22. we heat the whole house to 16 but the lounge is heated via the wood stove to a higher temperature (haven't actually taken a thermometer in there so i'd guess 20 ish? maybe a half dozen logs each evening). and there's thick curtains to keep the heat in. 

everyone has blankets and jumpers and can snag an electric throw or hot water bottle (one or the other) if they want to nest in their rooms but if they're not happy with that then they're welcome to come into the 'family room' where we all read or do crafts or have a family game/movie night with popcorn and snacks.

strawb_shortcake

Our old neighbours used to have their thermostat set at a whopping 27°!! They weren't old, just liked it hot. This was around 10 years ago and they said then their electric bill was £200 a month for a modest 3 bed semi. 

It always seemed completely bonkers as they'd all sit in T-shirts and shorts during the winter.