Cancelled flights and extra costs

richandria
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Flights to Turkey got cancelled for our trip in October flying with Corendon airlines. No alternative flight with CA as they have cancelled all flights. Alternative airlines are quite a bit more expensive for same dates/direct etc. 
what options do I have to recover the extra cost as we still want to go on holiday?
We are outside the 14 days from departure so not sure if I can claim compensation from the airline?
Can I claim from my travel insurance?
What are the chances of CA booking the alternative flights for us at their expense (re-routing option)? They have given us an open ticket valid for 1 year, but that is no use as there are no flights available now - we can obviously request a refund.
Thanks in advance
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  • bagand96
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    edited 31 August 2022 at 6:46AM
    You can't claim compensation because as you say they've given you more than 14 days notice.

    Under UK legislation (UK adopted EC261) they have to offer your choice of a refund or an alternative flight, even if on another airline. In theory Corendon should rebook you, however in practice with most airlines you'll have to book it yourself and then claim the cost back. Don't accept the refund as that can make it more complicated. 

    Corendon say on their support pages that they undertake to follow EC261 Refunds & Claims - Corendon Airlines and it seems you can start a claim (they call it a complant) from there.


  • Westin
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    Was this a package holiday trip?  If so the package travel organiser has a responsibility to find an alternative flight for your holiday, at no additional cost.
  • Westin said:
    Was this a package holiday trip?  If so the package travel organiser has a responsibility to find an alternative flight for your holiday, at no additional cost.
    No we booked separate flights and accommodation. But thanks for the reply, much appreciated
  • bagand96 said:
    You can't claim compensation because as you say they've given you more than 14 days notice.

    Under UK legislation (UK adopted EC261) they have to offer your choice of a refund or an alternative flight, even if on another airline. In theory Corendon should rebook you, however in practice with most airlines you'll have to book it yourself and then claim the cost back. Don't accept the refund as that can make it more complicated. 

    Corendon say on their support pages that they undertake to follow EC261 Refunds & Claims - Corendon Airlines and it seems you can start a claim (they call it a complant) from there.


    Thanks. Will try the claim route once we have decided what the most appropriate flights for us are. Thanks for the reply!
  • bagand96 said:
    You can't claim compensation because as you say they've given you more than 14 days notice.

    Under UK legislation (UK adopted EC261) they have to offer your choice of a refund or an alternative flight, even if on another airline. In theory Corendon should rebook you, however in practice with most airlines you'll have to book it yourself and then claim the cost back. Don't accept the refund as that can make it more complicated. 

    Corendon say on their support pages that they undertake to follow EC261 Refunds & Claims - Corendon Airlines and it seems you can start a claim (they call it a complant) from there.


    Hi Bagand96,
    I've checked through the Corendon website for complaints and when I go to file a complaint I get a pop-up message which reads:

    ""Dear Corendon passenger,

    We would like to express our sincere apologizes for the sudden cancellations and delays you have experienced in Europe this year, especially in Germany, due to staff shortages.

    As you know by now, all airlines and passengers are facing the same problems during the summer season 2022.

    Unfortunately, the airports, handling companies, security, and police did not calculate in advance that they were not able to handle the expected intensity and volume this year at the airports.

    We would like to state that we kindly ask you to make your complaints to the necessary authorities or responsible airports.

    For any complaint arising from cancellations or delays caused by any staff shortages at the airports, kindly contact them directly, as we as an airline are not responsible in any way for these delays and problems.

    As such, we regret to inform you that we will reject any claim arising from external factors.

    Again, we are sorry that we cannot offer you the services you are used to from Corendon Airlines, we do everything in our power with our team to fly you to your destination!!""

    And conveniently on the email I received notifying me of the cancellation they have said it was as a result of staff shortages;

    ""Due to the congestion at European airports and the insufficient number of airport personnel, we had to cancel the following flights.
    Thank you for your understanding""

    I struggle to see how they can blame staff shortages 7 weeks before we are due to fly? I presume this would be a fruitless task as it would appear as though they will just reject the claim. I presume there would be no point in trying to claim through Dalaman airport?

    Thanks again for your time  :)
  • bagand96
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    bagand96 said:
    You can't claim compensation because as you say they've given you more than 14 days notice.

    Under UK legislation (UK adopted EC261) they have to offer your choice of a refund or an alternative flight, even if on another airline. In theory Corendon should rebook you, however in practice with most airlines you'll have to book it yourself and then claim the cost back. Don't accept the refund as that can make it more complicated. 

    Corendon say on their support pages that they undertake to follow EC261 Refunds & Claims - Corendon Airlines and it seems you can start a claim (they call it a complant) from there.


    Hi Bagand96,
    I've checked through the Corendon website for complaints and when I go to file a complaint I get a pop-up message which reads:

    ""Dear Corendon passenger,

    We would like to express our sincere apologizes for the sudden cancellations and delays you have experienced in Europe this year, especially in Germany, due to staff shortages.

    As you know by now, all airlines and passengers are facing the same problems during the summer season 2022.

    Unfortunately, the airports, handling companies, security, and police did not calculate in advance that they were not able to handle the expected intensity and volume this year at the airports.

    We would like to state that we kindly ask you to make your complaints to the necessary authorities or responsible airports.

    For any complaint arising from cancellations or delays caused by any staff shortages at the airports, kindly contact them directly, as we as an airline are not responsible in any way for these delays and problems.

    As such, we regret to inform you that we will reject any claim arising from external factors.

    Again, we are sorry that we cannot offer you the services you are used to from Corendon Airlines, we do everything in our power with our team to fly you to your destination!!""

    And conveniently on the email I received notifying me of the cancellation they have said it was as a result of staff shortages;

    ""Due to the congestion at European airports and the insufficient number of airport personnel, we had to cancel the following flights.
    Thank you for your understanding""

    I struggle to see how they can blame staff shortages 7 weeks before we are due to fly? I presume this would be a fruitless task as it would appear as though they will just reject the claim. I presume there would be no point in trying to claim through Dalaman airport?

    Thanks again for your time  :)
    They are correct in saying they aren't required to pay compensation when it's caused by external factors outside their control.

    However the laws do require them to provide your choice of a refund or an alternative flight. This is regardless of who's fault it is and how much notice they give you. 

    This MSE link explains it further: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2022/05/easyjet-british-airways-cancellations-compensation/

    This is often easier said than done though and some airlines make it harder than others.
  • Westin
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    edited 31 August 2022 at 9:47AM
    Strange generic email regarding the cancellation.   I suspect it is more to so with October being end of season and a lack of demand.

    Follow on from bagand96 comment, I would be warry about expecting to recoup extra money for a new flight with another airline from this Turkish carrier.  What they should do and what they will do are very separate matters.  If they refuse the claim you will have rather a uphill struggle on your hand to recover money.   

    You will have even less chance going down the route of seeking compensation or expenses from Dalaman Airport.

    Have you looked to see what prices are on offer for you dates with SunExpress, Freebird, Easyjet?
  • Hi Richandria,
    I have been following your thread. Have you any updates? Just wondering were you successful. We had two flights cancelled from newcastle to Dalaman around the same time as yourself. They have offered to give us a refund, but to date we have not taken it yet. In the meantime we booked flights on the same day, same departure/arrival airports with same luggage (like for like), except these flights have cost over £500. I have requested a refund for the cost of the new flights, but they reply that we can only reclaim our original payment via Corendon. I have opened a case through Resolver, which resulted in a quite quick response from them initially, as on other methods we received an automated reply basically flogging us off. I'm just wondering if we have really got any hope of claiming for the new flights. The form I have been sent is asking for every detail under the sun and IBAN/SWIFT numbers etc. Any further advice most appreciated.
    Thanks
    bb
  • Hi BB, 
    I tried to get Corendon to book new flights with another airline, but they refused. I ended up booking new flights at an extra cost of £500 ish. I’ve tried claiming the extra cost from my travel insurance - not had a decision yet.
    I requested a refund from Corendon on 02/09 but not received the money yet. They said it would be within 14 days so will chase that up and see when the money will be refunded 😖
    good luck
  • Hi Richandria,
    Thanks for the reply. Not sure if you can claim that through your travel insurance. Interesting to see if you can. So you have just requested the refund for the cancelled flight, not the cost of the new flight?
    Hope you have success anyway. 
    Cheers
    bb
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