Gemini PCN - Vanished?

Poukong777

Hi All, 

My mum received a PCN from Gemini Parking Solutions when she parked her car in a disabled bay on 12 June 2022. She displayed a valid blue badge but apparently she also required a visitor's permit as it was a private estate.  

She has been in hospital since July and I am trying to challenge this for her.  I found the attached NtK among her unopened mail. She hasn't responded to it and she hasn't received anything since. Oddly, I tried typing in the PCN number onto Gemini's website but it states there is no record of this. 

Is it too late to appeal and will they escalate further?  Or have they cancelled it as I can't find it on their website anymore?

Also, the NtK requires payment within 29 days but doesn't specify when the 29 days needs to run from. Is that valid? 

Any help would be appreciated as I don't want her to end up getting further letters from Gemini when she returns home. 

Many thanks  

P

Fruitcake

That's a reminder, not the NTK, and it's addressed to a company secretary, not a named individual.
Is your mum a company secretary?

Who is the registered keeper?

Is this for a company vehicle, a motobility vehicle, or a lease/hire vehicle? If so, was liability transferred to the hirer/lesse (your mum) by "the company", and did your mum received a NTH/NTD (which you may not yet have found).
Alternatively, has someone else already paid it on you mum's behalf and then deducted monies from your mum's account?

Plan A is always to complain the the landowner and your mum's MP, but only if/when liability has been transferred.

fisherjim

Also if the parking company has transferred this to a debt collector it will no longer show up on their website.

Coupon-mad

Not that it matters. Ignore it. Gemini were recently bought out by APCOA and neither are litigious.

And that's a non-POFA paragraph (a strangling of the real wording) so maybe the first NTK was the same.

Worth getting a SAR for the missing document.  Then ignoring them if they refuse to provide a POPLA code late (which you could ask for).

Poukong777

Hi All, 

I’ve now heard back from Gemini who have passed the matter to a debt collector. I have complained to the Cator Estate residents association (landowner) several times with no response.

I am wondering if I should pay it as it looks like they are determined to escalate this matter? Would appreciate any advice. 

Many thanks 

Poukong777

Here is a pic of the latest letter mentioned in my last post …

KeithP

The fourth post of the NEWBIES thread describes exactly how to deal with debt collectors letters, but to summarise that post - ignore them.

On the day you started this thread three weeks ago @Fruitcake asked several other questions. Do you have any answers to those questions?

Coupon-mad

This isn't to be paid. Relax and read other threads about the same laughable letter chain:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79362393#Comment_7936239

Also please read the 4th post of the NEWBIES thread.

fisherjim

Poukong777 said:

Hi All,

I am wondering if I should pay it as it looks like they are determined to escalate this matter? Would appreciate any advice. 

Many thanks 

Why?

Passing it to a scummy debt collector is not an escalation which you would realise if you had followed the advice on here.

patient_dream

Poukong777 said:

Here is a pic of the latest letter mentioned in my last post …

Just another junk letter that is a scam.

You ignore these POWERLESS circus clowns

The added £70 is a scam approved by the BPA

When government gave the BPA  ATA status, they never dreamed this orgamisation would end up scamming millions of motorists

95Rollers

This is just a generic letter. They send out thousands of these. All identical bar the persons name and address. Ignore - they are just beggars who are trying to use gaslighting language to bully you out of your money!

They cannot take you to court nor have the power to come to your address nor instruct solicitors, bailiffs or get you CCJ'd like some of them falsely claim in their threats - they are NOT bailiffs and this is NOT a debt! Its a disputed speculative invoice at best! These idiots have ZERO legal clout. Don't waste your time engaging with them!

I just recycled all these letters which the production of is terrible for our environment!