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Commercial Energy - what next for businesses, large and small?

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  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 9,365 Forumite
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    Sea_Shell said:
    I'm a little surprised that this thread hasn't had more responses.

    Or maybe business owners don't read MSE, they're too busy running their businesses 😉🤔
    Historically this website has always had a consumer focus so for the most part the businesses have been the opposition, not the the ones intended to benefit from being here :)
    No reason not to talk about it though unless the admins feel otherwise, as it is important to consumers that the businesses they support and need do survive...

  • Sea_Shell
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    MWT said:
    Sea_Shell said:
    I'm a little surprised that this thread hasn't had more responses.

    Or maybe business owners don't read MSE, they're too busy running their businesses 😉🤔
    Historically this website has always had a consumer focus so for the most part the businesses have been the opposition, not the the ones intended to benefit from being here :)
    No reason not to talk about it though unless the admins feel otherwise, as it is important to consumers that the businesses they support and need do survive...


    I understand.   But they are still "consumers" too, personally, with the same need to consult MSE for everything outside their business sphere.

    I hope the mods feel this is a valid subject, as it does (will?) effect us all as consumers and/or taxpayers.
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.51% of current retirement "pot" (as at end June 2024)
  • BUFF
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    A Scottish bakery company, from £7k>£79k!  :open_mouth:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62756460
  • MWT
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    Sea_Shell said:
    MWT said:
    Sea_Shell said:
    I'm a little surprised that this thread hasn't had more responses.

    Or maybe business owners don't read MSE, they're too busy running their businesses 😉🤔
    Historically this website has always had a consumer focus so for the most part the businesses have been the opposition, not the the ones intended to benefit from being here :)
    No reason not to talk about it though unless the admins feel otherwise, as it is important to consumers that the businesses they support and need do survive...


    I understand.   But they are still "consumers" too, personally, with the same need to consult MSE for everything outside their business sphere.

    I hope the mods feel this is a valid subject, as it does (will?) effect us all as consumers and/or taxpayers.
    I have no problem with it being here, I run businesses in several countries, including the UK, but we do need to remember that the landscape is very different for business customers in terms of the limited protections, and the very varied type of contracts they may have, so a lot of our standard advice is not applicable.

  • Sea_Shell
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    BUFF said:
    A Scottish bakery company, from £7k>£79k!  :open_mouth:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62756460

    Wow!!    No business can survive that.

    Let's hope the "big" bakers have access to cheaper rates than that!!  Otherwise packed lunches are going to get very expensive ☹️

    I wonder what Mr Warburton's* bills are going to go up by?




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  • Sea_Shell
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    MWT said:
    Sea_Shell said:
    MWT said:
    Sea_Shell said:
    I'm a little surprised that this thread hasn't had more responses.

    Or maybe business owners don't read MSE, they're too busy running their businesses 😉🤔
    Historically this website has always had a consumer focus so for the most part the businesses have been the opposition, not the the ones intended to benefit from being here :)
    No reason not to talk about it though unless the admins feel otherwise, as it is important to consumers that the businesses they support and need do survive...


    I understand.   But they are still "consumers" too, personally, with the same need to consult MSE for everything outside their business sphere.

    I hope the mods feel this is a valid subject, as it does (will?) effect us all as consumers and/or taxpayers.
    I have no problem with it being here, I run businesses in several countries, including the UK, but we do need to remember that the landscape is very different for business customers in terms of the limited protections, and the very varied type of contracts they may have, so a lot of our standard advice is not applicable.


    I wasn't thinking about being able to give them any "advice", just more trying to get an overview of the landscape out there in the commercial energy world from those "at the coal face", first hand, rather than just what we may read in the media. 
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.51% of current retirement "pot" (as at end June 2024)
  • daveyjp
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    Just read of a music venue £10k to £144000 a year
  • QrizB
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    Sea_Shell said:
    BUFF said:
    A Scottish bakery company, from £7k>£79k!  :open_mouth:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62756460
    Wow!!    No business can survive that.
    Well, you say that ...
    It's an extra £200 a day. If the bakery makes 10,000 pies a day (and I don't know if that's a reasonable number, but from the photo it looks fairly larger and there are 1500 empty pie cases in one of them) that's an extra 2p on a pie.
    Will pie eaters pay an extra 2p? I don't know, but thewre's a good chance they will.
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  • Robin9
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    I did read of chippys not selling pies due to ever increasing costs .


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  • Sea_Shell
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    QrizB said:
    Sea_Shell said:
    BUFF said:
    A Scottish bakery company, from £7k>£79k!  :open_mouth:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62756460
    Wow!!    No business can survive that.
    Well, you say that ...
    It's an extra £200 a day. If the bakery makes 10,000 pies a day (and I don't know if that's a reasonable number, but from the photo it looks fairly larger and there are 1500 empty pie cases in one of them) that's an extra 2p on a pie.
    Will pie eaters pay an extra 2p? I don't know, but thewre's a good chance they will.

    If it was as "easy" to cover as just 2p per pie, why go to the media about it?   

    It's probably significantly more than that, at a guess.
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.51% of current retirement "pot" (as at end June 2024)
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