2nd and 3rd unknown CCJ from civil enforcement ltd!

Mouse007

THIS IS ABUSE - plain and simple.

Coupon-mad

abisharpe said:

When i found out i had the CCj's on the 23rd i rang up CEL legal team and spoke to them, i was mid panic and worried and very tired. So they reduced the original £319 each which was on the file down to £60 each. The woman on the phone then sent through via email a  draft consent order which states that the claims be set aside, the proceedings dismissed and each party shall bear its own costs of this application and the claim in general. 
I was told that would be £108 for each claim. 
So I haven't responded to that as i refuse to pay anymore, im just annoyed that i paid the pcn's in a panic 

Oh no!  This was a terribly bad move.  Makes your position really difficult I reckon.

You were absolutely in the right and had the moral high ground and then rang up, got intimidated and handed it to them. I think they could paint your refusal to go ahead with what you agreed, as unreasonable conduct.

You paid £120 on that verbal agreement and agreed to pay £108 x 2 court fees on top, to make it go away, and now you are reneging on that agreement and refusing to sign what will be painted as a 'perfectly reasonable' consent Order based on a discussion on the phone to resolve the matter.

See what @Johnersh thinks as he is a solicitor.  

Mouse007

Coupon-mad said:

See what @Johnersh thinks as he is a solicitor.  

Hopefully he will point to it being monies paid under duress

abisharpe

I did exactly the same thing last time in 2020 i blind panicked and paid the PCN charge! They again sent a draft order which stated exactly the same thing and i ignored that as well as i wasn't paying anymore 

Mouse007

Clearly you are on their suckers list - those unable to remember history are condemned to repeat it

abisharpe

I know! im kicking myself....very panicked and stressed mum with 2 small children running round whilst trying to talk to someone who clearly only wants money for 2 offenses that haven't even been proven! No more stress is needed But thank you both for your help and input ill hopefully have the email drafted by the morning 

Mouse007

Time to calm down, you are in the right place to get this sorted. No more thinking, do exactly what @Coupon-mad tells you.

Mouse007

abisharpe said:

I spoke to the CEL legal team and they reduced the charges to £60, in a panic i paid! They then sent the draft consent form which i oppose  

"they reduced the charges"

Which of course they did because they knew, totally knew, they were on the losing side. You are being scammed, totally turned upside down and...

Coupon-mad

On what basis will you be able to oppose an agreement that you verbally accepted and paid for?  I am so sorry, I think this set aside application is possibly doomed or at least, on shakier ground now.

What happened in the end in 2020, did you refuse to sign and instead went ahead and got that CCJ set aside by paying a £275 court fee - or did you just do nothing and still have that CCJ too?  Trying to work out what happened with that first one.

Mouse007

Coupon-mad said:

On what basis will you be able to oppose an agreement that you verbally accepted and paid for?

Hopefully duress - acting under fear not consent

Edit to add

https://www.lawteacher.net/free-law-essays/contract-law/duress-makes-a-contract-voidable-contract-law-essay.php

I have no plans to trip down to the container and find my law case study file right now

Edit again to add

But I clearly remember contracts entered into under duress are avoidable