Oct price cap increase likely to push energy bill to over £10k... for a family of 4...

MariaAH

RobM99 said:

Turn everything off then take readings. Turn things on a few at a time. Any rogue consumers will be apparent.
Are you sure you're not wired up tp next door and paying theirs as well?

Hope not...but beginning to wonder...

MariaAH

peterf83 said:

Does your son leave his PC on 24/7? If he does, I reckon he is mining Crypto, especially with his background and the need for AC. 

He has done mining from a dedicated device, but that has not been used for some time now and has been fully switched off for months...however I WILL double check...

MariaAH

k_man said:

So if 4-6 showers are around 10 -15 mins each, this matches usage.
It is also could be up to 500litres of water.
Do you know what your typical water usage (and bills) are? As any saving on hot water usage has saving there too.

Thank you and good point

michaels

MariaAH said:

QrizB said:

MariaAH said:

GingerTim said:

Based on your actual readings, I make that 18,540 kwh of gas...
The gas use is also very high for spring and summer months.

Our cooker is electric, so gas only used for combi boiler. I just cannot see how we can be using that amount of energy??

Can you read your meters today so we can see how much gas and electricity you have used since May while the weather is hot and the heating it switched off? (I assume the heating *is* switched off?)

At the moment, when we use gas to heat water we're using less than 10kWh/day.

Yes heating is off
I did a meter reading yesterday:
Since 23 May have used 1605kWh of gas, so equates to almost 20kWh/day, double your usage. So that is just for hot water. Approx £1.46/day
Electricity 2827kWh since 23 May, approx £9.80/day

Really don't think your usage sounds that bad - june and july we use 800kwh of gas per month for 10 showers a day.

Same months we used 900kwh of electricity per month including about 2000 ev miles (say 275 per month on the car), again with kids who like their entertainment and gaming and me working from home most days.

Our American fridge freezer is rated 1kwh per day but I bet used more in the heat this summer.

xzibit

I've just compared your bill to ours at the exact same time of year between 1st April - 23rd June.

You averaged 44.75kWh per day for gas, whilst we averaged 13.35kWh.

You averaged 31.77kWh per day for electric, whilst we averaged 4.96kWh.

We use gas for cooking as well as heating a cylinder of hot water each day (no combi). 4 bed detached house with 2 adults, 1 child. Granted it's newer than yours (2000) however we're not using any heating during this period. Hopefully it may help you see what could be possible. We were not particularly careful with energy - something that has now changed in the run up to the apocalypse.

Mstty

1980's houses were not known for their energy efficiency so if nothing has been done to update keeping the heat in it will be like burning pound notes and will explain a lot of the excess gas usage in winter.

Summer months may seem ok for just heating water but when the central heating comes on that's when it just leaks out the house.

Unless there is an indentical house in the same street, same orientation with the same people, doing the same things at the same times using the same appliances then anyone elses figures are not really helpful.

Get to know your base usage when you are not there and build in what everything costs with the Tapo p110 and then you are unlikely to be surprised in the future. Your base load may be considered high to other users but they are not you, living the lives your family lives. But knowing what's using what and when will just give you peace of mind👍

michaels

xzibit said:

I've just compared your bill to ours at the exact same time of year between 1st April - 23rd June.

You averaged 44.75kWh per day for gas, whilst we averaged 13.35kWh.

You averaged 31.77kWh per day for electric, whilst we averaged 4.96kWh.

We use gas for cooking as well as heating a cylinder of hot water each day (no combi). 4 bed detached house with 2 adults, 1 child. Granted it's newer than yours (2000) however we're not using any heating during this period. Hopefully it may help you see what could be possible. We were not particularly careful with energy - something that has now changed in the run up to the apocalypse.

But this is through choice, you have chosen to use 1/3 as much hot water as the OP, some people choose to shower more often for long enough to get properly clean.

Similarly electricity, they are choosing to run more electronic stuff than you are.  You don't get much hoovering, laundry, tv, cooking, computer etc for 5kwh per day.

xzibit

michaels said:

xzibit said:

I've just compared your bill to ours at the exact same time of year between 1st April - 23rd June.

You averaged 44.75kWh per day for gas, whilst we averaged 13.35kWh.

You averaged 31.77kWh per day for electric, whilst we averaged 4.96kWh.

We use gas for cooking as well as heating a cylinder of hot water each day (no combi). 4 bed detached house with 2 adults, 1 child. Granted it's newer than yours (2000) however we're not using any heating during this period. Hopefully it may help you see what could be possible. We were not particularly careful with energy - something that has now changed in the run up to the apocalypse.

But this is through choice, you have chosen to use 1/3 as much hot water as the OP, some people choose to shower more often for long enough to get properly clean.

Similarly electricity, they are choosing to run more electronic stuff than you are.  You don't get much hoovering, laundry, tv, cooking, computer etc for 5kwh per day.

Sorry I was just trying to be helpful to the OP. However, we use the washing machine every other day, dishwasher daily, kettle 3-4 times a day, vacuum every day, watch tv every day for an average 4 hours, run an additional fridge in the garage, use the oven most days, I work from home on a computer. So you can’t say we don’t use our appliances. And also suggesting that we are dirty is just simply trolling mate. But if it makes you feel better, then that’s good. Go you. 

QrizB

Mstty said:

1980's houses were not known for their energy efficiency so if nothing has been done to update keeping the heat in it will be like burning pound notes and will explain a lot of the excess gas usage in winter.

Cavity wall insulation and loft insulation both became commonplace for Building Regs compliance in the 80s. (I don't want to say "mandatory" as I haven't checked the Regs, but I had a summer job as a labourer and remember houses being built with both.)

RobM99

MariaAH said:

RobM99 said:

Turn everything off then take readings. Turn things on a few at a time. Any rogue consumers will be apparent.

Do this and do it soon!