Oct price cap increase likely to push energy bill to over £10k... for a family of 4...

michaels

Mstty said:

Surely we are looking at costing things at circa 60p kWh now for Oct/Jan

Every single watt of standby will be £5.25 a year priced at 60p kWh

"THE GREAT SWITCHOFF" should target anything on standby

At that price your £50 per year device will now cost £100 per year so it remains the case that finding a 10% saving in that device saves more than turning off a 1w standby at the plug.  Not rocket science, you can only save big from big use devices.

QrizB

Alnat1 said:

Stayed at a friends house this weekend and took my Tapo as we'd been chatting about it.
We measured her plug-in air freshener as 4w, pffft seems nothing.
She has this on constantly, so 4 x 24 x 365 = 35kWh. She has 6 of these, all over the house, 35kWh x 6 = 210kWh. Is that really £126 if we're now saying electricity will be around 60p/kWh or have I messed up somewhere with the maths?

I get the same numbers as you.

Mstty

michaels said:

Mstty said:

Surely we are looking at costing things at circa 60p kWh now for Oct/Jan

Every single watt of standby will be £5.25 a year priced at 60p kWh

"THE GREAT SWITCHOFF" should target anything on standby

At that price your £50 per year device will now cost £100 per year so it remains the case that finding a 10% saving in that device saves more than turning off a 1w standby at the plug.  Not rocket science, you can only save big from big use devices.

Read the post about 6 air fresheners plug ins using £126 (£21 each a year!!)

It's not all about the big things when prices hit 60p.

I can't remember who posted today but they stated the start position should be everything off.

That's looking like the best idea then monitor as you use👍

Mstty

Alnat1 said:

Stayed at a friends house this weekend and took my Tapo as we'd been chatting about it.

We measured her plug-in air freshener as 4w, pffft seems nothing.

She has this on constantly, so 4 x 24 x 365 = 35kWh. She has 6 of these, all over the house, 35kWh x 6 = 210kWh. Is that really £126 if we're now saying electricity will be around 60p/kWh or have I messed up somewhere with the maths?

I just asked the Mrs do you want your favourite takeaway or one of your plugins🤣🤣

She has this on constantly, so 4 x 24 x 365 / 1000 = 35kWh

Sea_Shell

Mstty said:

michaels said:

Mstty said:

Surely we are looking at costing things at circa 60p kWh now for Oct/Jan

Every single watt of standby will be £5.25 a year priced at 60p kWh

"THE GREAT SWITCHOFF" should target anything on standby

At that price your £50 per year device will now cost £100 per year so it remains the case that finding a 10% saving in that device saves more than turning off a 1w standby at the plug.  Not rocket science, you can only save big from big use devices.

Read the post about 6 air fresheners plug ins using £126 (£21 each a year!!)

It's not all about the big things when prices hit 60p.

I can't remember who posted today but they stated the start position should be everything off.

That's looking like the best idea then monitor as you use👍

Reminds me of the scene in Apollo 13, when they are working out which circuits they can turn on without overloading the system!!! 🤣

And those air fresheners...wow...that's not loose change!!

Mstty

Sea_Shell said:

Mstty said:

michaels said:

Mstty said:

Surely we are looking at costing things at circa 60p kWh now for Oct/Jan

Every single watt of standby will be £5.25 a year priced at 60p kWh

"THE GREAT SWITCHOFF" should target anything on standby

At that price your £50 per year device will now cost £100 per year so it remains the case that finding a 10% saving in that device saves more than turning off a 1w standby at the plug.  Not rocket science, you can only save big from big use devices.

Read the post about 6 air fresheners plug ins using £126 (£21 each a year!!)

It's not all about the big things when prices hit 60p.

I can't remember who posted today but they stated the start position should be everything off.

That's looking like the best idea then monitor as you use👍

Reminds me of the scene in Apollo 13, when they are working out which circuits they can turn on without overloading the system!!! 🤣

And those air fresheners...wow...that's not loose change!!

🤣🤣👍 Great analogy 

michaels

Mstty said:

michaels said:

Mstty said:

Surely we are looking at costing things at circa 60p kWh now for Oct/Jan

Every single watt of standby will be £5.25 a year priced at 60p kWh

"THE GREAT SWITCHOFF" should target anything on standby

At that price your £50 per year device will now cost £100 per year so it remains the case that finding a 10% saving in that device saves more than turning off a 1w standby at the plug.  Not rocket science, you can only save big from big use devices.

Read the post about 6 air fresheners plug ins using £126 (£21 each a year!!)

It's not all about the big things when prices hit 60p.

I can't remember who posted today but they stated the start position should be everything off.

That's looking like the best idea then monitor as you use👍

Agree but I guess it is whether you look at it as 1 air fresher £21, worth saving but not huge or £126 for 'air freshening' which is then a big number.

k_man

There is also some discussion/debate about the health risks of the VOCs in air fresheners (amongst other things), especially for those with asthma, allergies and breathing issues. So that is another area to consider.

https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/indoor-environment/

https://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/research/title_867379_en.html

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/59/9/746

michaels

k_man said:

There is also some discussion/debate about the health risks of the VOCs in air fresheners (amongst other things), especially for those with asthma, allergies and breathing issues. So that is another area to consider.

https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/indoor-environment/

https://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/research/title_867379_en.html

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/59/9/746

None in our house, the thought of introducing chemicals (into my lungs/the environment) to cover up things not smelling as you wish is anathema to me.  Keep stuff clean and it won't smell bad in the first place.

k_man

michaels said:

k_man said:

There is also some discussion/debate about the health risks of the VOCs in air fresheners (amongst other things), especially for those with asthma, allergies and breathing issues. So that is another area to consider.

https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/indoor-environment/

https://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/research/title_867379_en.html

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/59/9/746

None in our house, the thought of introducing chemicals (into my lungs.the environment) to cover up things not smelling as you with is anathema to me.  Keep stuff clean and it won't smell bad in the first place.

Likewise.
We also have windows for fresh air.