Is ESA or PIP easier to get?

Jaded2022

so confused about which sickness benefits are best for each situation 

what if if someone can’t work due to being so ill all the time and can’t even perform the most basic tasks due to their conditions 

would they apply for ESA or PIP and attendance allowance?

Spoonie_Turtle

ESA is based on capability for work. 
New claims can only be for New-Style ESA which is only payable if people have the relevant National Insurance contributions in the last two complete tax years.  If someone can't qualify for payments, they will have to claim UC which is means-tested, and includes an element that mirrors ESA provision.

PIP is based on ability to do daily activities, not means-tested or contributions-based.

AA is based on care needs and is only for pension-aged people.

poppy12345

Is this about yourself or someone else? Last week you posted a similar question and you were given advice. See thread. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377351/which-sickness-benefits#latest

In a thread last month you were asking about a credit credit for work for yourself and now you're saying you can't do the most basic tasks.

Jaded2022

poppy12345 said:

Is this about yourself or someone else? Last week you posted a similar question and you were given advice. See thread. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377351/which-sickness-benefits#latest

In a thread last month you were asking about a credit credit for work for yourself and now you're saying you can't do the most basic tasks.

Good lesson

never assume someone is talking about themselves 

Jaded2022

Spoonie_Turtle said:

ESA is based on capability for work. 
New claims can only be for New-Style ESA which is only payable if people have the relevant National Insurance contributions in the last two complete tax years.  If someone can't qualify for payments, they will have to claim UC which is means-tested, and includes an element that mirrors ESA provision.

PIP is based on ability to do daily activities, not means-tested or contributions-based.

AA is based on care needs and is only for pension-aged people.

Thanks 

yes surely if an oap pap qualifies for pip then the would AS

poppy12345

Jaded2022 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

ESA is based on capability for work. 
New claims can only be for New-Style ESA which is only payable if people have the relevant National Insurance contributions in the last two complete tax years.  If someone can't qualify for payments, they will have to claim UC which is means-tested, and includes an element that mirrors ESA provision.

PIP is based on ability to do daily activities, not means-tested or contributions-based.

AA is based on care needs and is only for pension-aged people.

Thanks 

yes surely if an oap pap qualifies for pip then the would AS

Sorry but i don't understand what you're trying to say here.

poppy12345

Jaded2022 said:

poppy12345 said:

Is this about yourself or someone else? Last week you posted a similar question and you were given advice. See thread. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377351/which-sickness-benefits#latest

In a thread last month you were asking about a credit credit for work for yourself and now you're saying you can't do the most basic tasks.

Good lesson

never assume someone is talking about themselves 

Indeed but members gave advice on your other thread. I don't understand the need for another thread asking the same questions.

Spoonie_Turtle

Jaded2022 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

ESA is based on capability for work. 
New claims can only be for New-Style ESA which is only payable if people have the relevant National Insurance contributions in the last two complete tax years.  If someone can't qualify for payments, they will have to claim UC which is means-tested, and includes an element that mirrors ESA provision.

PIP is based on ability to do daily activities, not means-tested or contributions-based.

AA is based on care needs and is only for pension-aged people.

Thanks 

yes surely if an oap pap qualifies for pip then the would AS

I don't understand what youmean, but PIP, ESA and UC are working-age benefits.  PIP can only be claimed by a pensioner if they started their claim before pension age.  UC can only be claimed by a pensioner if they are part of a couple and their partner is under state pension age.  The income-related benefit for pensioners is Pension Credit (which incidentally is on whole assessed more generously than UC).

[I think the assumption you were talking about yourself in this thread as well as the other was because you used almost identical wording.  I hadn't made the connection when I commented but if this thread is for someone else with different circumstances it would be useful to say what those circumstances are in order for advice to be better tailored.]