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900Mb Download speed FTTP

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Hi guys, 

I am looking to upgrade my internet speed preferably to 900 mbs,  I am currently with Vodafone FTTP 500, Unfortunately I am really disappointment as I am getting speeds of 150/200mbs not 500. Can someone recommend a decent provider that will deliver the speeds I intend to pay for please. I did try to sort it with Vodafone but it seems like it will get fixed for a day and then I go back to lower speeds again. Apparently it's to do with the fact that I need to share my bandwidth with other people on my street however by getting FTTP I thought that would not be the case. 

Thank you 

\\Kevin

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  • iniltous
    iniltous Posts: 3,684 Forumite
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    edited 13 August 2022 at 5:20PM
    Vodafone use more than one network provider , assuming it’s Openreach FTTP then it’s correct that it’s a shared connection, but the OR link is 2.4Gb download between a maximum of 30 , now if there are 30 users on your PON (often it much less that that it depends on take up ) and everyone was downloading massive files at the same time , throughput speed may suffer due to congestion  , but generally 2.4Gb that is more than ample for domestic use, chances are most users are doing a stuff that needs little bandwidth .
    Your 900Mb connection is the ( OR ) port speed , once you are onto your providers network then depending on the amount of bandwidth they provide , and they way they aggregate traffic, then you may suffer congestion that limits throughput.
    If you suffer congestion, you won’t know if it’s congestion on the OR PON , if it is swapping provider won’t achieve much as you would still have the same neighbours who are intensive users swamping the 2.4Gb , or if it’s congestion in the VF network, swapping providers to one with more bandwidth could provide a better throughput speed.
    Generally , cheap is cheap for a reason , lots of customers squeezed onto the smallest amount of bandwidth they can get away costs less than providing ample bandwidth but most consumers want cheap prices, and are not prepared to pay more.
    If you want a fibre that isn’t part of a shared PON , ( until you hit the ‘internet’ ) you need  a leased line , but they are much more expensive than FTTP 
  • brewerdave
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    Purely out of interest ,WHY do you need 900Mb/s ? I can only assume that you are running a business to need that sort of throughput.
  • prowla
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    Purely out of interest ,WHY do you need 900Mb/s ? I can only assume that you are running a business to need that sort of throughput.

    I've got gigabit BB and the answer to why do I need it is because I wanted to.
  • Kevin2022
    Kevin2022 Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Purely out of interest ,WHY do you need 900Mb/s ? I can only assume that you are running a business to need that sort of throughput.
    Not running Business, my household does a lot of streaming & gaming. iniltous said:
    Vodafone use more than one network provider , assuming it’s Openreach FTTP then it’s correct that it’s a shared connection, but the OR link is 2.4Gb download between a maximum of 30 , now if there are 30 users on your PON (often it much less that that it depends on take up ) and everyone was downloading massive files at the same time , throughput speed may suffer due to congestion  , but generally 2.4Gb that is more than ample for domestic use, chances are most users are doing a stuff that needs little bandwidth .
    Your 900Mb connection is the ( OR ) port speed , once you are onto your providers network then depending on the amount of bandwidth they provide , and they way they aggregate traffic, then you may suffer congestion that limits throughput.
    If you suffer congestion, you won’t know if it’s congestion on the OR PON , if it is swapping provider won’t achieve much as you would still have the same neighbours who are intensive users swamping the 2.4Gb , or if it’s congestion in the VF network, swapping providers to one with more bandwidth could provide a better throughput speed.
    Generally , cheap is cheap for a reason , lots of customers squeezed onto the smallest amount of bandwidth they can get away costs less than providing ample bandwidth but most consumers want cheap prices, and are not prepared to pay more.
    If you want a fibre that isn’t part of a shared PON , ( until you hit the ‘internet’ ) you need  a leased line , but they are much more expensive than FTTP 
    Thank you for this. Yes it is Openreach FTTP, I would love to swap to the provider with more bandwidth but there's no way of me knowing how much bandwidth I be getting as they don't advertise it. 
  • Madmel
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    We went with Cuckoo Broadband. They offer up to 900mbs although we don't pay for that much. Considering we were getting upto 2mbs on our old copper connection, our 110 now is brilliant.

    As an aside, I might get an incentive for introducing someone, so PM me if you want to go with them.
  • Unless people are running speedtests using wired connections (Cat 6 I believe is preferable) then results may be patchy. I am on a 330/50 FTTP connection and I get maximum speeds most of the time. 

    As I paying the same as I was for a 80/20 FTTC connection (with a maximum downspeed of 56Mbps) the upgrade was worth it, but the practical benefits are more illusory than real. For example, a PS5 game download is not much faster which I suspect is a server limitation.
  • DullGreyGuy
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    edited 25 October 2023 at 9:41PM
    Unless people are running speedtests using wired connections (Cat 6 I believe is preferable) then results may be patchy. I am on a 330/50 FTTP connection and I get maximum speeds most of the time. 
    Or their router can do a speed test, our Linksys router has SpeedTest built into it and so you can see exactly what speeds its getting (849d/945u in my case today) unaffected by wifi speeds or cat cables etc. So if you run the same on another device any difference is due to the connection method. 

    Whilst we routinely get above 900Mbps our ISP is a major city/prewire the whole block of flats only thing so not worth mentioning. Our area suffers from the fact there aren't cabinets and so most homes are OR copper straight to the exchange a couple of miles away meaning any other service is 2-3Mbps speeds
  • onomatopoeia99
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    edited 25 October 2023 at 9:41PM
    Unless people are running speedtests using wired connections (Cat 6 I believe is preferable) then results may be patchy. I am on a 330/50 FTTP connection and I get maximum speeds most of the time. 


    Cat5e is plenty for gigabit at the cable lengths used in domestic settings.  Definitely avoid wifi or powerline/homeplugs though.




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  • gt94sss2
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    Kevin2022 said:
    Purely out of interest ,WHY do you need 900Mb/s ? I can only assume that you are running a business to need that sort of throughput.
    Not running Business, my household does a lot of streaming & gaming. iniltous said:
    Vodafone use more than one network provider , assuming it’s Openreach FTTP then it’s correct that it’s a shared connection, but the OR link is 2.4Gb download between a maximum of 30 , now if there are 30 users on your PON (often it much less that that it depends on take up ) and everyone was downloading massive files at the same time , throughput speed may suffer due to congestion  , but generally 2.4Gb that is more than ample for domestic use, chances are most users are doing a stuff that needs little bandwidth .
    Your 900Mb connection is the ( OR ) port speed , once you are onto your providers network then depending on the amount of bandwidth they provide , and they way they aggregate traffic, then you may suffer congestion that limits throughput.
    If you suffer congestion, you won’t know if it’s congestion on the OR PON , if it is swapping provider won’t achieve much as you would still have the same neighbours who are intensive users swamping the 2.4Gb , or if it’s congestion in the VF network, swapping providers to one with more bandwidth could provide a better throughput speed.
    Generally , cheap is cheap for a reason , lots of customers squeezed onto the smallest amount of bandwidth they can get away costs less than providing ample bandwidth but most consumers want cheap prices, and are not prepared to pay more.
    If you want a fibre that isn’t part of a shared PON , ( until you hit the ‘internet’ ) you need  a leased line , but they are much more expensive than FTTP 
    Thank you for this. Yes it is Openreach FTTP, I would love to swap to the provider with more bandwidth but there's no way of me knowing how much bandwidth I be getting as they don't advertise it. 
    In your circumstances, I would actually go with BT.

    They offer a 700Mb Stay Fast Guarantee which is faster than other ISPs FTTP 900Mb products.
  • Dandytf
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    prowla said:
    Purely out of interest ,WHY do you need 900Mb/s ? I can only assume that you are running a business to need that sort of throughput.

    I've got gigabit BB and the answer to why do I need it is because I wanted to.
    Since Thur's only managing 916Mbs from VM 1gb to Kensington Doc-Tb4-xps laptop,
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