PCN with County Court N1 form (Excel (ELMS Legal))

Snakes_Belly

Ed2022 said:

Snakes_Belly said:

I agree with Johnersh in principle however did you actually received a PCN on the car on the 25th or a PCN through the post on the 25th?  My understanding is that this car park is monitored by ANPR. 

The PCN was for the 25/01/2022 and that is what the photographs show for the DPA.

On the timeline this is what you wrote.

Timeline:

• 25/01/2022 - PCN issued for event on the 
• 21/07/2022 - CCBC form received (attached)
• 27/07/2022 - Made a CPR 31.14 request to ELMS Legal (not received)
• 27-28/07/2022 - Offer without prejudice, declined so told to fill CCBC admitting liability
• 28/07/2022 - DPA request files received - the letters sent out, no photographs of actual signage
• 31/07/2022 - AOS online on the MCOL site

If the date of the transgression is 25/01/2022 and the photographs also evidence the car on the 25/01/22 and the claim is for a transgression on the 2/01/22 and the car was not there on the 2/01/22 I agree entirely with Johnersh. 

These PCN's are being issued like confetti so it does not surprise me if some are incorrect.    

Ed2022

Snakes_Belly said:

Ed2022 said:

Snakes_Belly said:

I agree with Johnersh in principle however did you actually received a PCN on the car on the 25th or a PCN through the post on the 25th?  My understanding is that this car park is monitored by ANPR. 

The PCN was for the 25/01/2022 and that is what the photographs show for the DPA.

On the timeline this is what you wrote.

Timeline:

• 25/01/2022 - PCN issued for event on the 
• 21/07/2022 - CCBC form received (attached)
• 27/07/2022 - Made a CPR 31.14 request to ELMS Legal (not received)
• 27-28/07/2022 - Offer without prejudice, declined so told to fill CCBC admitting liability
• 28/07/2022 - DPA request files received - the letters sent out, no photographs of actual signage
• 31/07/2022 - AOS online on the MCOL site

If the date of the transgression is 25/01/2022 and the photographs also evidence the car on the 25/01/22 and the claim is for a transgression on the 2/01/22 and the car was not there on the 2/01/22 I agree entirely with Johnersh. 

These PCN's are being issued like confetti so it does not surprise me if some are incorrect.    

Correct. Reviewing the correspondence again, the files for the DPA request as above on the 28/07/2022 was received. The ELMs legal representative also advised the DPA information sent is also the CPR 31.14 information that they seemingly rely on.

Will finalise and submit the CCBC before 4pm. 

Castle

Snakes_Belly said:

Ed2022 said:

Snakes_Belly said:

I agree with Johnersh in principle however did you actually received a PCN on the car on the 25th or a PCN through the post on the 25th?  My understanding is that this car park is monitored by ANPR. 

The PCN was for the 25/01/2022 and that is what the photographs show for the DPA.

If the date of the transgression is 25/01/2022 and the photographs also evidence the car on the 25/01/22 and the claim is for a transgression on the 2/01/22 and the car was not there on the 2/01/22 I agree entirely with Johnersh. 

These PCN's are being issued like confetti so it does not surprise me if some are incorrect.    

As do I; It's somewhat ironic/funny that if a driver "puts the wrong number into a PDT" the PPC would still want their £100.

Ed2022

@Castle exactly, maybe I should bill them for £100.

Thanks everyone submitted it on Monday and got the reply from CCBC.

A question I should have asked earlier, does a copy have to go to the Caimant too?

Le_Kirk

The CCBC will send your defence to the claimant.

Ed2022

Le_Kirk said:

The CCBC will send your defence to the claimant.

Perfect thank you.

Ed2022

Apologies as promised, a letter from Excel advising that ELMS has ceased to act for them.

Coupon-mad

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79483694/#Comment_79483694

Ed2022

Thanks @Coupon-mad

I do like the statement that they will "bring it to the court's attention", the without prejudice offer as I had sent my own to which the reply was just fill in the CCBC claim form. Absolute clowns.

Ed2022

I haven't applied to mediation, I suspect it was the firm.