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Private Parking Solutions London LTD

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  • Umkomaas said:
    I am sure I am being paranoid
    There's no need to hide such basic stuff as the GSV and location detail. We see that level of detail regularly, which can often give rise to comments from regulars who know, recognise or have dealt with the location in the past. 

    Are you certain that this is a private road? The local council can confirm. 
    Thanks Umkomaas! I am certain that this is NOT a private road. Below are the details:

    The street mentioned in the LBC is Zone A B Holloway Street Hounslow TW31AA.  But the exact point where I had stopped was the junction of Holloway street and Matisse Road (hand drawn red oval) and then I turned back from there. I have highlighted the path I took in yellow (Matisse road) to get to the point where I had stopped (the manually drawn red oval adjacent to the Google destination Red bubble). I did not drive into the Holloway street, I only came to the junction where it meets Matisse road, I dont know if back then Holloway street was even operational, Matisse road was a dead end (at least that's how I saw it and that's why I turned back from there). 


    In the image below, the manually drawn red oval is exactly where I had stopped. I wasnt even occupying the parking bay where you see the white car in the picture. There is a post office right across from where I had stopped, where you can see the royal mail van. And the rest of the Matisse road is the backyards of shops/warehouses etc. So Matisse Road itself is not a private road and there no signs on its entrance indicating any restrictions. Hope you are able to provide some guidance based on these details. Thanks ever so much again for your help!

  • Mouse007
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    Those look like Forbidding Signs to me. Can't have a contract if nothing was offerred which means they can not invoice you (The PCN is an invoice)




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    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
    Please then tell us here that you have done so.

  • Mouse007 said:
    Those look like Forbidding Signs to me. Can't have a contract if nothing was offerred which means they can not invoice you (The PCN is an invoice)




    Thank you Mouse007. This is the picture that was shared with me in response to the SAR.

  • Coupon-mad
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    No Parking at Any Time, yet there are faded white lines marking out parking bays.
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  • Dear Experts,
    Hope you are well. I have received another LBC from Gladstones for a different address where the alleged parking violation took place in 2019 for UK Car Park Management Limited. The Letter states:

    We wrote to you on 2 August 2022 at an alternate address. We have since carried out an UK Search
    trace, which has produced a new address for you.
    We act on behalf of the above Client and are instructed to commence legal proceedings against you
    to recover unpaid parking charge notices) as detailed in the attached schedule (full details of them
    having been sent to you by our Client already), if the Amount Due/ Debt remains unpaid or a valid
    reason for non-payment is not provided.
    The Amount Due/ Debt includes £70.00 claimed by our Client for the time/resources spent facilitating
    the recovery of the unpaid parking charge notice(s) pursuant to its ATA's Code of Practice and the
    Terms and Conditions of the Contract, which was entered into upon the driver of the vehicle entering
    the Relevant Land. The amount is a pre-determined and nominal contribution to our Client's losses as
    a direct result of your non-payment.
    We refer you to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (paragraph 7) (the 'PAP') and the Practice
    Direction for Pre-Action Conduct (paragraphs 13-16) contained in the Civil Procedure Rules ('CPR');
    regarding the Court's powers to impose sanctions for any failure to comply with the Practice Direction
    or the Protocol.
    You should do one of the following within 30 days of the date on this letter: 
    etc....

    I presume I need to start a new thread for this as this is a different parking firm?

    Many thanks
    Sam

  • Umkomaas
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    Dear Experts,
    Hope you are well. I have received another LBC from Gladstones for a different address where the alleged parking violation took place in 2019 for UK Car Park Management Limited. The Letter states:

    We wrote to you on 2 August 2022 at an alternate address. We have since carried out an UK Search
    trace, which has produced a new address for you.
    We act on behalf of the above Client and are instructed to commence legal proceedings against you
    to recover unpaid parking charge notices) as detailed in the attached schedule (full details of them
    having been sent to you by our Client already), if the Amount Due/ Debt remains unpaid or a valid
    reason for non-payment is not provided.
    The Amount Due/ Debt includes £70.00 claimed by our Client for the time/resources spent facilitating
    the recovery of the unpaid parking charge notice(s) pursuant to its ATA's Code of Practice and the
    Terms and Conditions of the Contract, which was entered into upon the driver of the vehicle entering
    the Relevant Land. The amount is a pre-determined and nominal contribution to our Client's losses as
    a direct result of your non-payment.
    We refer you to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (paragraph 7) (the 'PAP') and the Practice
    Direction for Pre-Action Conduct (paragraphs 13-16) contained in the Civil Procedure Rules ('CPR');
    regarding the Court's powers to impose sanctions for any failure to comply with the Practice Direction
    or the Protocol.
    You should do one of the following within 30 days of the date on this letter: 
    etc....

    I presume I need to start a new thread for this as this is a different parking firm?

    Many thanks
    Sam

    That's a different parking firm to the one being dealt with in this thread, so it's vital that you please start a brand new thread for the UKCPM charge to avoid total confusion, with difficulty in knowing what advice is being given on this thread for which case. 

    In your new thread please give some background to the parking event and what has happened in the time between the date of the event and today. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Thanks Umkomaas! I am certain that this is NOT a private road. Below are the details:

    The street mentioned in the LBC is Zone A B Holloway Street Hounslow TW31AA.  But the exact point where I had stopped was the junction of Holloway street and Matisse Road (hand drawn red oval) and then I turned back from there. I have highlighted the path I took in yellow (Matisse road) to get to the point where I had stopped (the manually drawn red oval adjacent to the Google destination Red bubble). I did not drive into the Holloway street, I only came to the junction where it meets Matisse road, I dont know if back then Holloway street was even operational, Matisse road was a dead end (at least that's how I saw it and that's why I turned back from there). 


    In the image below, the manually drawn red oval is exactly where I had stopped. I wasnt even occupying the parking bay where you see the white car in the picture. There is a post office right across from where I had stopped, where you can see the royal mail van. And the rest of the Matisse road is the backyards of shops/warehouses etc. So Matisse Road itself is not a private road and there no signs on its entrance indicating any restrictions. Hope you are able to provide some guidance based on these details. Thanks ever so much again for your help!

    Hi @Sam_was_here
    How did your story with the PCN issued at Zone A B Holloway Street Hounslow TW31AA by Private Parking Solutions (London) Ltd?
    I just received a PCN from them for stopping in the exactly the same sport for under 2 minutes.

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 6 December 2024 at 7:26PM
    Just ignore them. Or appeal as keeper.

    Read the NEWBIES thread and you can see if the NTK is non-POFA compliant or not.

    No link given or needed. See my signature:
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