UKPC ticket "parking on roadway" in residential estate I live in. POPLA appeal stage. Please help.

1505grandad

A heads-up  -  you should be using/quoting from BPA CoP version 8 dated January 2020 which has slightly different para numbers/wording (especially for Grace Periods).

xninjanon

Thanks a lot everyone for your help on this.  Much appreciated. I've submitted the POPLA appeal on Sunday so as soon as I get a response on that I'll post here. In the meantime is there anything else to be done? As I said before DVLA weren't able to give me the date UKPC requested keeper details over the phone or email. They wanted the V888 form posted and a charge paid for the information which would take up to 8 weeks. Is this something I should be doing?

Thanks again!

Umkomaas

Is this something I should be doing?

Definitely not. This is the standard advice I give about the matter:

DVLA SUBJECT ACCESS REQUESTS 

Email the DVLA and ask which organisations (when and for what reason) accessed the registered keeper's data from them between a range of dates which includes the date(s) of the parking incident(s). You need to provide the registered keeper's full name and address, the address on the V5C logbook and the Vehicle Registration Mark of the vehicle involved in the parking incident. 

SubjectAccess.Requests@dvla.gov.uk

This service is free of charge. 

Even though you email your request, the DVLA will respond via Royal Mail.

xninjanon

Thanks @Umkomaas
 
I sent a SAR to DVLA, still waiting for a response.

In other news - I now have bailiffs contacting me, despite submitting an appeal to POPLA. Please see below the letter I received and the email I am planning to send back to them. Could someone check what I am planning to say and let me know if I need to reword or alter anything?

KeithP

xninjanon said:

In other news - I now have bailiffs contacting me, despite submitting an appeal to POPLA. Please see below the letter I received and the email I am planning to send back to them. Could someone check what I am planning to say and let me know if I need to reword or alter anything?

Bailiffs??

ZZPS aren't bailiffs. They are just boring old debt collectors.
The fourth post of the NEWBIES thread explains how to deal wit debt collectors, but to summarise that post - ignore them.

However, it certainly is wrong for them to be chasing you while a PoPLA appeal us still undetermined.

Yes, send that email to ZZPS if you wish, but change 'Good morning' to 'Dear Sirs' and 'Kind regards' to 'Yours faithfully'.

Perhaps you should really be complaining to UKPC as well, for having passed the matter to ZZPS before a PoPLA decision has been made.

Coupon-mad

xninjanon said:

Thanks @Umkomaas
 
I sent a SAR to DVLA, still waiting for a response.

In other news - I now have bailiffs contacting me, despite submitting an appeal to POPLA. Please see below the letter I received and the email I am planning to send back to them. Could someone check what I am planning to say and let me know if I need to reword or alter anything?

So, ZZPS still think it is acceptable in August 2022, to send out a 'debt demand' for £170 which illegally threatens bailiffs.

Involving Certified Enforcement Agents/bailiffs, at are-court stage? We beg to differ.

Half_way

Umkomaas said:

If you win at POPLA, I'd straight away consider suing UKPC for accessing your data from the DVLA without reasonable cause under GDPR/DPA regs, especially given the evidence you have accumulated. Even if you lose (unlikely, but POPLA has become more unpredictable of late), consider suing anyway.

Even if you decide not to sue, a formal complaint to the DVLA could see sanctions applied against UKPC .... they have form in that context, and must be dangling by a thinner thread than most PPCs. 

Zzps are scum, and run by scum you can ignore them.
But what are they doing holding your data if the case is still to run through popla?
As for going after ukpc with regards to GDPR etc, you should also ensure that whoever appointed them is also included, as they are jointly liable

xninjanon

@KeithP @Coupon-mad @Half_way thanks all for your advice. I'll send the email to ZZPS and I'll contact UKPC and complain. 

Coupon-mad

 I now have bailiffs contacting me, 

You don't.  They aren't bailiffs.

Fruitcake

You should also complain to the BPA and your MP about UKPC siccing ZZPS on to you.