Returning item that has been "used"

MattMattMattUK

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

shiraz99

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

Undervalued

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

I totally agree. I always record any program I seriously want to watch on any commercial channel for exactly that reason!

jackieblack

Undervalued said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

I totally agree. I always record any program I seriously want to watch on any commercial channel for exactly that reason!

Same... plus not all channels have catch up or on demand without having to pay for it 

prowla

If you want to see what your Sky box will work like as freesat, just take out the viewing card.

user1977

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

Or only getting around to catching up with something after it's fallen off the catchup service.

born_again

Waunakee said:

I cancelled my SKY subscription a few months back but the existing equipment still functions as a Freesat box so maybe no need to buy new.

SKY did not require the box to be returned and advised we could use it as a free to air box,give it away or deposit at a recycling centre.

You do however lose the ability to record programs but I don’t find it an issue as I mainly watch streaming services on demand.

If you have Sky Q box, which most are now. You do not own it. It is the property of SKY & you have to return it.

oldagetraveller1

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

Yes, but if, like me, you don't pay the propaganda tax and remain "legal" there's really no other option than catch up etc..

I'd rather endure a few advertisements than fund a certain organisation with almost £160/annum.

shiraz99

oldagetraveller1 said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

Yes, but if, like me, you don't pay the propaganda tax and remain "legal" there's really no other option than catch up etc..

I'd rather endure a few advertisements than fund a certain organisation with almost £160/annum.

This really makes no sense. We're discussing the advantage of a PVR over a catch up service, how does that have anything to do with your so-called "propaganda tax" somehow (and I'm not sure how) forcing you to only use catch-up services?

user1977

shiraz99 said:

oldagetraveller1 said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

shiraz99 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

The more MSE question is do you actually need a FreeSat box? Almost all TVs made in the last decade have integrated satellite decodes and many from the decade before that have them. There is a good chance you do not need a box, you can just connect your TV directly.

Even if that's the case there's still much to be said for have the full recording ability of a Freesat PVR (assuming that's what the OP is looking at).

Is there? With nearly everything now available on demand, if needed via a £19 Fire stick if the TV is not already smart, or not smart enough due to age, is recording even close to being a requirement? Also many TVs have that capability built in if a flashdrive is plugged into one of the USB ports. Almost all Sony and LG TVs since 2012 have that as standard for example (via Google TV and subsequently Android TV), other manufacturers have added it via various software, about half of TVs ship with Android TV, Samsung have their own software etc. 

Many people think they need a set-top box, but in the majority of cases the TV already has all the capability they need. 

Ever tried watching through the constantly repetitive adverts on catchup channels such as All 4, ITV Hub, My 5 etc. There'll always be a place for a PVR.

Yes, but if, like me, you don't pay the propaganda tax and remain "legal" there's really no other option than catch up etc..

I'd rather endure a few advertisements than fund a certain organisation with almost £160/annum.

This really makes no sense. We're discussing the advantage of a PVR over a catch up service, how does that have anything to do with your so-called "propaganda tax" somehow (and I'm not sure how) forcing you to only use catch-up services?

Because you need a tv licence to record off-air, but not to watch (non-"live") programmes on a catchup service.