Landowner timeframe to cancel PCN

carb_1

Hi All,

I have received this morning a letter of claim from DCB Legal on behalf of UKPC.

The PCN is from July 2017 for failure to display a valid permit in a space provided for me to use by the company I am employed by.

The vehicle was correctly parked and permitted to do so by the company that owns the unit and the lease for the spaces that UKPC patrol.

I originally appealed the ticket on these grounds and also later emailed the landowner to cancel the PCN.

I am on first name terms with the landlord of the business village that our office is on so feel that is my best approach to get the PCN cancelled. However whenever I have emailed him to request this he has stated that he can only cancel within 30 days of the PCN being issued.

Does this sound correct as he seems to be sticking by this statement?

I assume if he still won't cancel, the next step is SAR to UKPC and debt advice delay to DCBL?

Any assistance is much appreciated.

Coupon-mad

Who are UKPN? No such firm.

Maybe his contract does only allow him a right to cancel in the first month but he can still ask the PPC to cancel a later one.  His call!  Nothing bad can happen by him asking.

He is the principal. They are his agent, remind him. He can ask for anything and he can END the contract, too...so they might jump if he says jump.

carb_1

Apologies that should be UKPC!

I'll email him back and politely request he tries to cancel with them.

carb_1

Since my original post, I've been told by one of our neighbouring offices that under the terms of the leases, each office is allowed to use our designated spaces as we like, meaning that we do not need to display permits. I am now just waiting on confirmation from our head office for the terms of the lease.

If this is indeed true, what would be my next best course of action?

Assuming my head office can provide proof, should I email this to the solicitor with a covering letter?

Thanks.

Half_way

If there's already a right to use the spaces, you can tell the ppc to Foxtrot Oscar, and then claim against them for accessing your data without just cause/ due dillegence

patient_dream

Half_way is right ..... if there is a long standing arrangement.

The landowner probably signed a contract with UKPC about the 30 days without understanding the implications which are now raising their head

The landowner is the Organ Grinder and UKPC are simply the monkey and there is no reason why he cannot give UKPC THEIR MARCHING ORDERS when the contract expires .... as many do

There must be many landowners who have signed contracts not understanding the implications and how the scam works

carb_1

I finally received a response from the landowner this morning and he is adamant that he cannot do anything which is a shame.

"I was informed the PCN cannot be cancelled as owner time limit is 60 days from date of issue. Your PCN notice is from July 2017 which has exceed the time limit. It is in the UKPC system to pursue PCN payments. UKPC had passed PCN onto the enforcement agent after 60 days. This matter can only be resolved between the vehicle owner, agent and there legal dept. This is not the result you wanted hear. The matter is out of my hands."

carb_1

One question I'd be grateful if someone could answer; I've done the SAR to UKPC and spoken to my MD who is going to provide a copy of the lease that states we can use the spaces without penalty.

Should I email this and dispute the claim on that basis, when I email DCB legal to tell them I am seeking debt advice etc?

Half_way

The landowner can cancel right up to the day of court, what they have said about the 60 day limit is bovine feacal material invented by the parking company.
 The landowner is also jointly liable for the actions of his/ her agents, and should be reminded of this, should you incurr any costs including time as a result of dealing with this.

Coupon-mad

carb_1 said:

One question I'd be grateful if someone could answer; I've done the SAR to UKPC and spoken to my MD who is going to provide a copy of the lease that states we can use the spaces without penalty.

Should I email this and dispute the claim on that basis, when I email DCB legal to tell them I am seeking debt advice etc?

Yes.  Your Judge in the end will want to see the efforts you made to resolve the dispute out of court and that's exactly what I'd do.

carb_1

Thanks all, I've sent off my response to DCBL.

I wondered this morning, the fact that the landowner is attempting to cancel the ticket but is being prevented from doing so by UKPC; should I forward his email to DCBL showing that he is being prevented from cancelling the ticket by their client?