Reroof — Slate vs Concrete Tiles?

stuart45

Planning permission is your responsibility. 

paperclap

A reroof doesn’t fall under the requirement for planning permission though, does it?

Though, if replacing more than 25% of the roof, it does require building regulations.

I’m hoping to speak with the roofer this morning, so I’ll get his thoughts on the matter too. And if need be, chase building regs!

stuart45

If your roofer is part of the competent persons scheme he will deal with the building regs for partL.
Planning can apply to a change of materials in some cases. As TELLIT01 said it's worth checking.

NatNat77

Following with interest! Funny enough we had a quote for a part new/part re roof for £27.5k in Spanish slate, which I mentioned on another thread. That roofer also told us there was only about £1k difference between that and Marley modern. I haven't seen the full quote yet but I did think that was a bit odd, but maybe he was right, given you've been told the same!

Stuart and Freebear gave helpful advice on that thread too, which prompted me to do some research on Spanish slate. I asked him and he told me he'd let me know what quarry it was from, and that they're good for 100 years, but I have checked the sample he dropped off and it doesn't have the kitemark stamped on it that I've read it should have, which makes me nervous 😬 so look out for that too!

paperclap

NatNat77 said:

Following with interest! Funny enough we had a quote for a part new/part re roof for £27.5k in Spanish slate, which I mentioned on another thread. That roofer also told us there was only about £1k difference between that and Marley modern. I haven't seen the full quote yet but I did think that was a bit odd, but maybe he was right, given you've been told the same!

Stuart and Freebear gave helpful advice on that thread too, which prompted me to do some research on Spanish slate. I asked him and he told me he'd let me know what quarry it was from, and that they're good for 100 years, but I have checked the sample he dropped off and it doesn't have the kitemark stamped on it that I've read it should have, which makes me nervous 😬 so look out for that too!

The slate itself should have a kitemark symbol on it? I assumed as it was a natural material it would be void of all that stuff… but I guess it’s the only way of separating the good from the bad!

NatNat77

Oh maybe I've read it wrong! That was my understanding but perhaps it's the quarry itself that is gjven that standard rather than the actual tile. I'm sure someone more sensible will clarify (and hopefully put my mind at rest lol) 

Section62

laurencewhymark said:

NatNat77 said:

Following with interest! Funny enough we had a quote for a part new/part re roof for £27.5k in Spanish slate, which I mentioned on another thread. That roofer also told us there was only about £1k difference between that and Marley modern. I haven't seen the full quote yet but I did think that was a bit odd, but maybe he was right, given you've been told the same!

Stuart and Freebear gave helpful advice on that thread too, which prompted me to do some research on Spanish slate. I asked him and he told me he'd let me know what quarry it was from, and that they're good for 100 years, but I have checked the sample he dropped off and it doesn't have the kitemark stamped on it that I've read it should have, which makes me nervous 😬 so look out for that too!

The slate itself should have a kitemark symbol on it? I assumed as it was a natural material it would be void of all that stuff… but I guess it’s the only way of separating the good from the bad!

It would be a CE mark rather than a kitemark, and will be on the packaging or shipping documents at least.

It isn't a guarantee the slate will last though.

Section62

laurencewhymark said:

A reroof doesn’t fall under the requirement for planning permission though, does it?

If you are changing the material or increasing the height of the roof it could do.  In particular if the building is in a conservation area or there is a listed building nearby.

On the subject of planning, since you are taking the whole roof off, you might want to think about any plans you have for the future and incorporate them now.  E.g. if you wanted to make the loft space more usable then having a dormer or roof window added while the roof is being replaced would cost less and be better overall than having one inserted at a later date.

Also, all work on a roof is subject to building regulations (in terms of compliance) - the 25% rule only relates to whether approval/notification is required.  Referring back to the previous posts, you (as homeowner) have ultimate responsibility for ensuring the work complies with building regs.

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Section62 said:

laurencewhymark said:

A reroof doesn’t fall under the requirement for planning permission though, does it?

If you are changing the material or increasing the height of the roof it could do.  In particular if the building is in a conservation area or there is a listed building nearby.

On the subject of planning, since you are taking the whole roof off, you might want to think about any plans you have for the future and incorporate them now.  E.g. if you wanted to make the loft space more usable then having a dormer or roof window added while the roof is being replaced would cost less and be better overall than having one inserted at a later date.

Also, all work on a roof is subject to building regulations (in terms of compliance) - the 25% rule only relates to whether approval/notification is required.  Referring back to the previous posts, you (as homeowner) have ultimate responsibility for ensuring the work complies with building regs.

How much do you think we’re talking in terms of cost difference between having a window or dormer put in now, instead of say in 5-10 years?

Trouble is, we need the reroof now.

If we were to have a loft conversion, we wouldn’t choose a Velux window. We’d want two dormers. There, you’re already looking at £35k, aren’t you?

FreeBear

laurencewhymark said: How much do you think we’re talking in terms of cost difference between having a window or dormer put in now, instead of say in 5-10 years?

Your biggest single cost is going to be scaffolding. Doing it now would save a (guesstimate) £1K, so it makes sense to do any/all roofline work whilst you have scaffold up.

Currently having work done on my roof, and getting fascia & gutters done at the same time. And before the scaffolding comes down, going to render & paint the upper half of the building.