Parking charge notice for somewhere I have never been to 150 miles away?

daveyjp

Do ECP use the payment website which shows you the original image rather than the poor quality ones often on the invoice?

If so it could be worth a look to see just how poor the original is, or if its good, how they managed to read it incorrectly or manipulate it to an extent they and made a false application for your keeper info.

georgeireland

daveyjp said:

Do ECP use the payment website which shows you the original image rather than the poor quality ones often on the invoice?

If so it could be worth a look to see just how poor the original is, or if its good, how they managed to read it incorrectly or manipulate it to an extent they and made a false application for your keeper info.

Honestly, whilst it is grainy it seems to be my vehicles reg. The only other possible combination it could be misread for is non-existent as a vehicle on the government reg check.

The car appears to be the same colour. Maybe even model as mine. But the plates are blatantly not legitimate which is why I concluded it might be cloned.

*I have actually requested a police investigation into the potentially cloned plates just in case they go on a join ride and I get 100 more of these fake invoices/speeding tickets.

1505grandad

"Please see attached an image of the REAL plates registered to the vehicle you incorrectly sent a PCN to."

Just a pedantic thought  -  does that read as though a pcn was sent to a vehicle not RK?

Also  -  capital "I":-

"....matter to my MP and the information Commissioner."

Umkomaas

The 'number plates', from an ANPR capture, are more likely to be computer generated image representations rather than the actual image of the real number plates themselves. I'd be looking for more differentiating aspects from the car images - which will be real - than the number plates. 

georgeireland

1505grandad said:

"Please see attached an image of the REAL plates registered to the vehicle you incorrectly sent a PCN to."

Just a pedantic thought  -  does that read as though a pcn was sent to a vehicle not RK?

Also  -  capital "I":-

"....matter to my MP and the information Commissioner."

Thank you! I've altered it to be a bit clearer.

georgeireland

Umkomaas said:

The 'number plates', from an ANPR capture, are more likely to be computer generated image representations rather than the actual image of the real number plates themselves. I'd be looking for more differentiating aspects from the car images - which will be real - than the number plates. 

Yes, this made me quite annoyed and seems to be a common format in other examples from this company. It's literally just a cropped image of a number plate. If I can force a data request from them I might try to get the original images.

KeithP

georgeireland said:

Umkomaas said:

The 'number plates', from an ANPR capture, are more likely to be computer generated image representations rather than the actual image of the real number plates themselves. I'd be looking for more differentiating aspects from the car images - which will be real - than the number plates. 

Yes, this made me quite annoyed and seems to be a common format in other examples from this company. It's literally just a cropped image of a number plate. If I can force a data request from them I might try to get the original images.

There won't be any 'original images'.
The ANPR software does the 'enhancement' and the only image stored will be the one that you have seen.

Half_way

You should/must also copy the pub into this and tell them that as principal they are jointly and severly liable for the actions of their agents.

If it a chain pub (and not a true independant free house) you should take this further with them

Fruitcake

ANPR scameras take a digital image of a vehicle and number plate.
The number plate part of the image is then processed by a computer "Optical Recognition Programme" to convert the image to an alpha-numeric interpretation, and it spits out its "best guess" of a VRM. This is not a true representation of the actual VRM, only a computer generated interpretation.

ANPR systems are so flawed that the UK government has prohibited their use for monitoring of council and local authority car parks.

Where ANPR is permitted, manual checks are required. This is not infallible either as shown in the "KNITTER" case where an ANPR system interpreted the writing on a woman's jumper as a VRM, and the system sent a (council) PCN to a motorist.

The keeper should complain to the the landowner, the PPC, the BPA, the DVLA, and their MP.

When the PPC and the DVLA respond with whitewash, the keeper should complain to the ICO about the data breach.